Luciferian philosophy....

[Inno]

Originally Posted by dull boy

With two dudes exchanging names? KINDA PORN YOU WATCHING

Lol touché

[~RustyGunZ~]

I don’t argue with people IRL lol

This is my arguing vent, sometimes the occasional argument on a conservative friend of mines post cus he has a big following and they’re as intelligent as right wingers can get.

[Amen]

"Just because you are right does not mean I am wrong. You have not seen life from my shoes."

[~RustyGunZ~]

Some people think they had it tough and compare their scuffed name brand shoes as testament of that to people with mud soaked Walmart sandals. The point that quote is making only applies to a few styles of debate. It does fit with the religious shit always being talked about though.

[Destroyer]

Yeah, some people don’t even have feet

[~RustyGunZ~]

Originally Posted by Destroyer

Yeah, some people don’t even have feet

Exactly

[dull boy]

Originally Posted by Destroyer

Yeah, some people don’t even have feet

lol

[Amen]

Perception.

[~RustyGunZ~]

Originally Posted by Amen

Perception.

If that wasn’t a clever drawing it would be a real object that would either be 3 or 4 lol

But I get your point meng

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Originally Posted by Knucklehead

If that wasn’t a clever drawing it would be a real object that would either be 3 or 4 lol

But I get your point meng

Used it during a presentation LOL. Liked it. It got the message out. Have used it ever since.

[dull boy]

Originally Posted by Knucklehead

If that wasn’t a clever drawing it would be a real object that would either be 3 or 4 lol

But I get your point meng

Vintage Seth

[Amen]

Shut up w/ that bullshit. "Exactly."

Want to argue about it?

[dull boy]

Slit his throat and drink his strength.


Pause.

[Elemental P]

Lol I do not know for sure if he is a true adept but he claim to be of the rose cross order but he's not heavily involved as he put it. He said that Lucifer I'd a wave of conciousness and not a being. Regardless of whatever the case is I still like to hear other peoples opinions and ideas on what they think and make my own conclusions after. No one is always 100% wrong or right so there's always something to learn but just have to be non credulous

[Dragon]

I am a christian. There is really no such thing as 'Luciferian religion' but Satanism. I wouldn't try to come in contact with such a thing. It's very bad for your soul. Don't do such a thing.

[Elemental P]

Originally Posted by Dragon

I am a christian. There is really no such thing as 'Luciferian religion' but Satanism. I wouldn't try to come in contact with such a thing. It's very bad for your soul. Don't do such a thing.

No there is.

It's not the same as Satanism.

Luciferian philosophy is more about knowledge and gnosis. That God kept man in the garden of Eden as slaves, and Lucifer set man free by knowledge. There's something that guy wrote I mentioned but I only have part of it

[Elemental P]

Originally Posted by Dragon

I am a christian. There is really no such thing as 'Luciferian religion' but Satanism. I wouldn't try to come in contact with such a thing. It's very bad for your soul. Don't do such a thing.

This is part of what that guy posted. Read it I find it interesting.


THE SERPENT OF SALVATION

We have said that, according to the Gnostic interpretation of Genesis, the creator god imprisoned Adam and Eve in a world of misery and gave them a subservient soul. The bible says that after eating the forbidden fruit Adam and Eve hid themselves, ashamed by the mistake they had made. God arrived in paradise and called Adam with these words: "Where are you?" He appeared to be acting like a master calling his servant. When he didn't find him, he seemed to be saying: "Where are you? Where have you hidden yourself? What have you done? Why are you not here working?"

This creator god created Adam and Eve incapable of distinguishing between good and evil, between the uncreated kingdom and the created one. He also created them ignorant of their origin and their destiny.

Why did he create them like this? According to Gnosis, the creator didn't want man to know his true origin. This world was created against the will of the Unknowable God and this was something the creator did not want man to know. He didn't want them (and still doesn't) to know the Spiritual situation in which they were living, who they were or why they had been created. He wanted them to remain ignorant and still does so to this day. This is why he forbade them to eat from the tree of knowledge. Because it would "open their eyes", wake them up and make them notice who they were and where they came from, the situation they were in and what they had to do. It would make them aware that Eden wasn't paradise, but just the opposite.

In his book "La franc-maçonnerie", Father Leon Meurin describes the Gnostic interpretations of the earthly paradise and the Serpent of Genesis, and the following ideas come up: Jehovah does not want man to know his origin or his great destiny. He forbids all contact with the higher world. He wants man to be a reflection of him, the creator, and not a reflection of the Supreme God.

But man did wake up, and he did become aware of good and evil. How did he manage to do this? The Serpent of temptation in Eden fed him the forbidden fruit which opened his eyes. According to Gnostics this Serpent is Lucifer, the Messenger of Light. This is the meaning of the word Lucifer: Bearer of Light. Lucifer took the form of a serpent to wake man up. He is a Messenger of the Supreme God, the Unknowable God. He is a Messenger of the True God who came into this imperfect, inadequate and wretched world to wake up and liberate man, to show him his true situation and what his great destiny could be like. For this reason, those who follow the orders of the creator god consider the serpent to be something malicious and satanic and in all this confusion liken it with satan.

On the other hand, Gnostics see the Serpent Lucifer as a saviour, someone who came to save man, a Messenger of the True God. This Serpent of Enlightenment which brought Gnosis, Gnostic truth which allows the authentic and true nature of things to be seen in this world of confusion, came to liberate man. Lucifer is the true liberator of man. He came to liberate man from the tyranny of Yahve, from the tyranny of the creator god. He brought the real knowledge that in itself can free man and help him to escape from this satanic world and return to the world from which he came.

This Serpent is, for Gnostics, the Serpent of Salvation, the Serpent which opened the eyes of man, which offered him the apple of emancipation to help him wake up and free himself from this world of misery and impure matter.

The creator wanted to create man like the other living beings, incapable of distinguishing between good and evil but the Serpent's actions woke them up and liberated them. According to Gnostics, this knowledge, this Gnosis which the Serpent Lucifer brought to man, undoubtedly caused a great cosmic disturbance in the creation. This is how powerful this knowledge is. Gnosis causes changes in those who receive it, in those who listen to it because it is not common or current knowledge, it is liberating knowledge.

There is an interesting book written by Ernst Bloch called "Atheism in Christianity", which gives a good synthesis of this whole aspect of Gnostic thought, the aspect related to the Serpent of Liberation as a Messenger of the True God.

Gnostics of later times, at the beginning of Christianity, who came to be known as Christian Gnostics or Gnostic Christians, regarded Christ as the Serpent of Genesis. This was because Christ, much later than the events in the earthly paradise, came carrying a liberating message, just like the Serpent. A message which frees man from this impure world. These Christian Gnostics believe that it was this knowledge which allowed man to make contact with the other world, the one opposed to the demiurge: the unknowable world of the True God.

Christ, the bearer of this message, this Gnosis, has been likened to the Serpent of Genesis, who returns to Earth for a second time to help humanity. The first coming was Serpent Lucifer

[Elemental P]

@Ghost01 have you ever read anything on Gnostic Luciferianism? I know you're a Christian and was jc as to your opinion of this perversion of Genesis?

[Destroyer]

Lmao
Hey, I know you subscribe to your own bullshit, but have you ever read THIS bullshit?

[Elemental P]

Originally Posted by Destroyer

Lmao
Hey, I know you subscribe to your own bullshit, but have you ever read THIS bullshit?

Lmao this isn't MY Bullshit it's called Gnostic Luciferianism. I'm simply making an observation, doesn't mean I'm a Fucking devil worshipper. And yes I do find it interesting, it's the OTHER side of the story per se. Aside from just the Christian POV.