NBA PLAYOFFS - Page 19

Amen · 06-09-2018, 05:35 PM

Uh oh would let Trump's and Lebroom run a train on him.

Lol @ I pretty much played with a broken hand.

FOH, HES A CRY BABY FAGGOT LOSER LABROOM.

Amen · 06-09-2018, 05:37 PM

He had no help? Neither did Dirk when the Mavs defeated the "Super Team Miami Heat" in what 2011 or some shit... FOH, LABROOM.

uh-oh · 06-09-2018, 05:54 PM

dirk had a squad stop it

lebron is basically ray lewis and tom brady rolled into one

he is the greatest athlete of all time, all sports considered

your guys descent into haterism is only going to push my dickriderism further

continue at your own PERIL

PancakeBrah · 06-09-2018, 05:54 PM

The Mavs finals is the only black mark on his record. He's been the underdog, Vegas wise, in every Finals he hasn't won. Maybe he was favored Heat v. Spurs II cant remember.

Someone's opinion of LeBron is really just a litmus test for whether they're analytics based or hot take based. By statistical metrics he's clearly the second best player of all time. But if you want to make impossible to prove arguments about killer instinct or clutchness or whatever other nonsense then yeah, you can strawman the hell out of him. Or try to say he's a cry baby, even though every NBA player bitches about calls and he's the most durable/toughest player in the league, physically.

For reference, Jordan's Bulls were favored in all 6 of his Finals. LeBron has been favored in 2 of 9. Now there could be some circular logic in this defense of LeBron, as in Jordan is better BECAUSE he was favored every time. But the fact is, you need context for everything. Is Lionel Messi a worse player when he loses in the World Cup than he is when he's winning leagues and tourneys for Barcelona? No. It's just the breaks with roster construction and team dynamics.

I'm no huge Lebron/Cavs stan. I just think his haters getting worked up to shit on him when they could just enjoy a literal GOAT candidate for 15+ years is funny.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features...rt-his-legacy/

Geno · 06-09-2018, 06:00 PM

Bron to rockets?
Bring him to my lakers. Ungh

Ps
Loom at the team he brought to the finals this year. Bron da god.

Pharaohs Army · 06-09-2018, 06:08 PM

I think that's a well-worded Lebron take for Pancake...

In my opinion Jordan was a better scorer, but Lebron is a better passer and rebounder.
Jordan could play good D...Lebron impressive with those chasedown blocks.

They both are the all-time greats.

The Warriors probably couldn't wait to play Cleveland sans Kyrie Irving.
We just beat this team 3-1 and now we get to play them without Irving? Guess what, 4-0.

As great as Golden State is... I think they would have lost if Chris Paul played game 6 or 7. Rockets had them on the ropes.

Amen · 06-09-2018, 06:12 PM

Jordan average defense > LeBron's on his best game.

PancakeBrah · 06-09-2018, 06:16 PM

Nah. Jordan's probably better but it's not some crazy disparity like you're making it out to be.

James has multiple top five DPOY finishes and was the key part to that Miami defense of switching and closing out everything. Defensive versatility, across positions, is an edge he has over Jordan. Like I said, on balance Jordan is probably better but LeBron was a world class defender at his peak.

uh-oh · 06-09-2018, 06:18 PM

i've been listening to all types of nonsense about how jordan would single guys out and lock them down defensively. and hey thats great that he had the luxury to do that. he couldn't defend all 5 positions and that would never be asked of him. him trading assignments with pippen is cute. lebron is expected to defend everyone. he's expected to do EVERYTHING. jordan was expected to be the cerebral scorer he was. and thats all well and great

but it always comes back to how you weigh it out. anyone objectively can see lebron james is the better basketball player.

5 ON 5 WHO WINS

5 JORDANS VS 5 LEBRONS

dull boy · 06-09-2018, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by uh-oh

i've been listening to all types of nonsense about how jordan would single guys out and lock them down defensively. and hey thats great that he had the luxury to do that. he couldn't defend all 5 positions and that would never be asked of him. him trading assignments with pippen is cute. lebron is expected to defend everyone. he's expected to do EVERYTHING. jordan was expected to be the cerebral scorer he was. and thats all well and great

but it always comes back to how you weigh it out. anyone objectively can see lebron james is the better basketball player.

5 ON 5 WHO WINS

5 JORDANS VS 5 LEBRONS

5 Jordans. By a good margin.

bleak · 06-09-2018, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by dull boy

5 Jordans. By a good margin.

I vehemently disagree w/ this statement. Jordan cannot pass or rebound anywhere near the level that Lebron can, and LeBron is the superior defender. 6'8" 270 matters in isolation basketball

Amen · 06-10-2018, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by bleak

I vehemently disagree w/ this statement. Jordan cannot pass or rebound anywhere near the level that Lebron can, and LeBron is the superior defender. 6'8" 270 matters in isolation basketball

LeBron's defense is NO WHERE near Jordan, dude.

How many defensive titles does LeBron have?

bleak · 06-10-2018, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Amen

LeBron's defense is NO WHERE near Jordan, dude.

How many defensive titles does LeBron have?

Defensive titles mean jack shit in 2018, they don't give awards the same way. Watch the game. How many highlights defensively does MJ have? AI put MJ on fucking ice skates don't come at me w/ that shit Lebron defends 5 positions better than 90% of the people at that position.

I love how the only argument is DPOTY awards lmfao those don't go to MVPs anymore bud they gotta spread the love around.

All y'all old ass fgts need to realize that in 10 15 years, ur all gonna be dead, and there is gonna be not much of a yard stick between the 2. Cause if titles are the argument then MJ still aint the best lol

veritas · 06-09-2018, 06:46 PM

JOHN STOCKTON >

uh-oh · 06-09-2018, 07:28 PM

5 stocktons would just glitch the matrix and they would pass to eachother in a continuous loop

veritas · 06-09-2018, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by uh-oh

5 stocktons would just glitch the matrix and they would pass to eachother in a continuous loop

Look at Stockton’s field goal percentage and free throw percentage. The Stockton’s would whittle down the defense with mid range jumpers backdoor baseline layups and free throw and 1s.

Respect for showing Stockton love.

Inno · 06-09-2018, 07:32 PM

Steve Nash > Stockton

veritas · 06-09-2018, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Innovator

Steve Nash > Stockton

State your case

Inno · 06-09-2018, 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by veritas

State your case

I will return with my answer, currently shopping for food

Cred · 06-09-2018, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Innovator

Steve Nash > Stockton

06-09-2018, 05:54 PM	#3
uh-oh DA GOD Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Canton Ohio Posts: 12,362 Battle Record: 1-0 Champed - Beat Battle II - Beat Battle V - Beat Bags Rep Power: 84181420	dirk had a squad stop it lebron is basically ray lewis and tom brady rolled into one he is the greatest athlete of all time, all sports considered your guys descent into haterism is only going to push my dickriderism further continue at your own PERIL __________________ EVERYBODY I KNOW GOT WEED OR GOT POWDER BUT I AINT GOT EITHER. GOT ALOT OF DEMONS

06-09-2018, 05:54 PM	#4
PancakeBrah SOBER Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 12,480 Battle Record: 2-5 Champed - AOWL Season 2 Rep Power: 85899407	The Mavs finals is the only black mark on his record. He's been the underdog, Vegas wise, in every Finals he hasn't won. Maybe he was favored Heat v. Spurs II cant remember. Someone's opinion of LeBron is really just a litmus test for whether they're analytics based or hot take based. By statistical metrics he's clearly the second best player of all time. But if you want to make impossible to prove arguments about killer instinct or clutchness or whatever other nonsense then yeah, you can strawman the hell out of him. Or try to say he's a cry baby, even though every NBA player bitches about calls and he's the most durable/toughest player in the league, physically. For reference, Jordan's Bulls were favored in all 6 of his Finals. LeBron has been favored in 2 of 9. Now there could be some circular logic in this defense of LeBron, as in Jordan is better BECAUSE he was favored every time. But the fact is, you need context for everything. Is Lionel Messi a worse player when he loses in the World Cup than he is when he's winning leagues and tourneys for Barcelona? No. It's just the breaks with roster construction and team dynamics. I'm no huge Lebron/Cavs stan. I just think his haters getting worked up to shit on him when they could just enjoy a literal GOAT candidate for 15+ years is funny. https://fivethirtyeight.com/features...rt-his-legacy/ __________________ Netcees 2025 Revivalist Movement Founder

06-09-2018, 06:00 PM	#5
Geno White Earl Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Philly Cat. Posts: 12,354 Battle Record: 10-15 Accomplishments - Open Mic HOF (4x) Champed - Netcees Writers League - Write Week I - Write Week 8 Rep Power: 50036761	Bron to rockets? Bring him to my lakers. Ungh Ps Loom at the team he brought to the finals this year. Bron da god. __________________ *-A.bove T.he R.est*

06-09-2018, 06:16 PM	#8
PancakeBrah SOBER Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 12,480 Battle Record: 2-5 Champed - AOWL Season 2 Rep Power: 85899407	Nah. Jordan's probably better but it's not some crazy disparity like you're making it out to be. James has multiple top five DPOY finishes and was the key part to that Miami defense of switching and closing out everything. Defensive versatility, across positions, is an edge he has over Jordan. Like I said, on balance Jordan is probably better but LeBron was a world class defender at his peak. __________________ Netcees 2025 Revivalist Movement Founder

06-09-2018, 06:18 PM	#9
uh-oh DA GOD Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Canton Ohio Posts: 12,362 Battle Record: 1-0 Champed - Beat Battle II - Beat Battle V - Beat Bags Rep Power: 84181420	i've been listening to all types of nonsense about how jordan would single guys out and lock them down defensively. and hey thats great that he had the luxury to do that. he couldn't defend all 5 positions and that would never be asked of him. him trading assignments with pippen is cute. lebron is expected to defend everyone. he's expected to do EVERYTHING. jordan was expected to be the cerebral scorer he was. and thats all well and great but it always comes back to how you weigh it out. anyone objectively can see lebron james is the better basketball player. 5 ON 5 WHO WINS 5 JORDANS VS 5 LEBRONS __________________ EVERYBODY I KNOW GOT WEED OR GOT POWDER BUT I AINT GOT EITHER. GOT ALOT OF DEMONS

06-09-2018, 05:35 PM	#1
Amen As-salamu alaykum! Join Date: May 2016 Posts: 8,462 Battle Record: 19-8 Champed - 1-2 Punch League Season 6 Rep Power: 0	Uh oh would let Trump's and Lebroom run a train on him. Lol @ I pretty much played with a broken hand. FOH, HES A CRY BABY FAGGOT LOSER LABROOM.

06-09-2018, 05:37 PM	#2
Amen As-salamu alaykum! Join Date: May 2016 Posts: 8,462 Battle Record: 19-8 Champed - 1-2 Punch League Season 6 Rep Power: 0	He had no help? Neither did Dirk when the Mavs defeated the "Super Team Miami Heat" in what 2011 or some shit... FOH, LABROOM.

06-09-2018, 06:08 PM	#6
Pharaohs Army Banned Join Date: Aug 2014 Posts: 2,956 Battle Record: 6 - 14 Rep Power: 0	I think that's a well-worded Lebron take for Pancake... In my opinion Jordan was a better scorer, but Lebron is a better passer and rebounder. Jordan could play good D...Lebron impressive with those chasedown blocks. They both are the all-time greats. The Warriors probably couldn't wait to play Cleveland sans Kyrie Irving. We just beat this team 3-1 and now we get to play them without Irving? Guess what, 4-0. As great as Golden State is... I think they would have lost if Chris Paul played game 6 or 7. Rockets had them on the ropes.

06-09-2018, 06:12 PM	#7
Amen As-salamu alaykum! Join Date: May 2016 Posts: 8,462 Battle Record: 19-8 Champed - 1-2 Punch League Season 6 Rep Power: 0	Jordan average defense > LeBron's on his best game.

06-09-2018, 07:28 PM	#15
uh-oh DA GOD Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Canton Ohio Posts: 12,362 Battle Record: 1-0 Champed - Beat Battle II - Beat Battle V - Beat Bags Rep Power: 84181420	5 stocktons would just glitch the matrix and they would pass to eachother in a continuous loop __________________ EVERYBODY I KNOW GOT WEED OR GOT POWDER BUT I AINT GOT EITHER. GOT ALOT OF DEMONS

06-09-2018, 07:32 PM	#17
Inno Ad mini tator Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 10,026 Battle Record: 26-54 Champed - Lime Green Poetry Association - Black August - 1-2 Punch League Rep Power: 85899403	Steve Nash > Stockton