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Old 08-25-2015, 04:47 AM   #41
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Old 08-25-2015, 09:29 AM   #42
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i didn't mean to imply that it was. i trying to provide an analogy. they're very similar effects and they're both caused by charge differences. was also trying to draw the connection between electricity and magnetism, and if you believe in unified field theory they would be the same thing.

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Old 08-25-2015, 09:42 AM   #43
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i never said that it was. i trying to provide an analogy. they're very similar effects and they're both caused by charge differences.
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Magnets manipulate the natural electrical fields in certain kinds metals to change the orientation of their atoms according to the polarity of the magnet. All of the atoms lined up inside the metal become strongly polarized (builds up negative charge one side and positive on the other), so you see a magnified example of the same type of bonding that holds sodium to chlorine in a salt molecule (ionic bonding - aka bonding through charge differences)

You're over-simplifying magnetism & I doubt uh-oh understands ionic bonding at that level to begin with haha


to say that 'certain metal atoms interact with magnetic fields to align themselves according to their charge distribution' is not only wrong but it doesn't explain the 'why' of anything

Anyways, highly electronegative atoms and polar molecules interact with magnetic fields, but this is only relevant on a molecular scale. Basic charge interactions don't explain the magnetism we see in everyday life.

Ferromagnetism is entirely based on quantum mechanics, i.e. the filling of electron orbitals with the highest number of unpaired electrons possible

Magnetism is not a magnified example of ionic bonding, like at all
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if you believe in unified field theory they would be the same thing.

Leslie nope on this one.
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Old 08-25-2015, 09:55 AM   #45
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@uh-oh To answer the magnetism question, you're basically asking "what gives some elements certain properties?"

A level deeper, "Why do elements differ so wildly when you're only slightly changing the number of electrons and protons?"

Those answers are explained by chemistry and quantum mechanics.

Without boring you to death, this is kinda a cool introduction to quantum mechanics

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Magnets work cuz I fucking told them to.

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Hey guys the magnet thing was a passing reference to that icp meme from a few years ago. I wasnt asking how magnets work as much as a relating my being baffled at the stock market like icp being baffled by magnets

But seeing as you guys can easily explain something scientifically complex and basically like a natural law of physics yet you cant explain why the stock market is good leads me to believe it isnt and should be abolished

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Hey guys the magnet thing was a passing reference to that icp meme from a few years ago. I wasnt asking how magnets work as much as a relating my being baffled at the stock market like icp being baffled by magnets

But seeing as you guys can easily explain something scientifically complex and basically like a natural law of physics yet you cant explain why the stock market is good leads me to believe it isnt and should be abolished

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You're over-simplifying magnetism & I doubt uh-oh understands ionic bonding at that level to begin with haha


to say that 'certain metal atoms interact with magnetic fields to align themselves according to their charge distribution' is not only wrong but it doesn't explain the 'why' of anything

Anyways, highly electronegative atoms and polar molecules interact with magnetic fields, but this is only relevant on a molecular scale. Basic charge interactions don't explain the magnetism we see in everyday life.

Ferromagnetism is entirely based on quantum mechanics, i.e. the filling of electron orbitals with the highest number of unpaired electrons possible

Magnetism is not a magnified example of ionic bonding, like at all
yeah it was definitely oversimplified, my post was more laymens terms than accurate. apologies if you feel somehow wronged. it was kinda of just a tag on the end of the post so i wasn't really trying to get that deep. but thank you for the more detailed explaination. also, cool video.
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