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Old 03-11-2013, 02:56 PM   #1
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Default So I just realized that College isn't the same thing as University in the US...

...and that's weird as fuck. So you basically graduate high school and then you go to college and THEN you got to university and THEN you can be like a doctor or something? You must be pushing 30 by then.

Here, you graduate high school and then directly go to university. So I'm wondering what the hell college is for. Does someone care to explain this?
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I'm attending a University out of high school, and I study in its college of visual and performing arts. to the best of my knowledge universities here have smaller colleges within them that specialize in certain fields, having said that we all say we go to college lol. I think you're thinking about undergraduate degrees vs graduate degrees.
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yea no.....either r optional

u dont have 2 year schools in german?
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AFAIK, a University is a type of a college.

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All universities are colleges, but, not all colleges are universities.

Like in NJ, there's Camden county college, and there's Rutger's University.. the Camden county, is a county college.. you graduate there in 2 years with a associate's

Rutgers University is a 4 year college, you get an associate's in 2 and a bachelor's in 4

Bachelor's is usually what most places want for you to have to work for them.

so basically you get three routes

> 2 year's in Community > transfer over to a University - this is the route you go basically, if you didn't do AS well in High school, necessarily, to get into a university out of high school

or if you are on top of your game in high school, and can get accepted to a university, you go that route and attend the university for 4 years

or get an associate's in 2 and go on to work w/ that
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Okay. Now that makes more sense. Seems unnecessarily complicated, though. In Germany (it's the same in pretty much all of Europe), you graduate high school and then go to University, which you can attend for either 3 or 5 years. 3 if you just want a smaller degree and want to start working, 5 for a better degree. But why change places again after 2 years? That seems weird. And the naming thing needs to be worked on too lol. Nobody gets which is which and why they are what they are.
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It's to confuse foreigners
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This even confused me. I was like "wtf, I went to st. louis university, and didnt have to go somewhere between - and i called that college"

The only thing that isn't confusing about our system --- educational, fiscal, political or otherwise --- is that it is designed to confuse.


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Okay. Now that makes more sense. Seems unnecessarily complicated, though. In Germany (it's the same in pretty much all of Europe), you graduate high school and then go to University, which you can attend for either 3 or 5 years. 3 if you just want a smaller degree and want to start working, 5 for a better degree. But why change places again after 2 years? That seems weird. And the naming thing needs to be worked on too lol. Nobody gets which is which and why they are what they are.
Most people don't change after 2 years.

You graduate HS, and hopefully get into a nice University. Or at least a University, period. 9/10 you can get into one, just depends on your grades which level of prestige you're allowed access. Some people on the low end of the spectrum decide to go to Community College for a couple years for two reasons; it's cheaper, and it gives them a chance to prove to better Universities that they're worth admission. Then they transfer. Most of the time CC's have connections with local colleges that allow credits to transfer.

But the average HS to University student is probably the exact same situation as Europe. We just call all the Universities College because we don't give a fuck and fuck Europe.
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Most people don't change after 2 years.

You graduate HS, and hopefully get into a nice University. Or at least a University, period. 9/10 you can get into one, just depends on your grades which level of prestige you're allowed access to. Some people on the low end of the spectrum decide to go to Community College for a couple years for two reasons; it's cheaper, and it gives them a chance to prove to better Universities that their worth admission. Then they transfer. Most of the time CC's have connections with local colleges that allow credits to transfer.

But the average HS to University student is probably the exact same situation as Europe. We just call all the Universities College because we don't give a fuck and fuck Europe.
Okay. Makes a bit more sense. But then just call the colleges lol. Do it for me. :)
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Same system in Australia as Germany.

In America can you go straight out of highschool to study a profession at university? Like Medicine, Accounting, Engineering? I thought college was like a more general type of tertiary education, THEN you go into a graduate degree to get qualified as something like a doctor or accountant or engineer... ?
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They r colleges & we do call them that, also. HAVENT U BEEN READING SNOOP!?!? R U JUST SAYING U UNDERSTAND BECAUSE U DONT UNDERTSAND AND U DONT CARE FOR US TO CONTINUE TRYING TO LEARN U!?!? IS THAT UR GAME SNOOP?!?! well.....the jig is up, bud. The.Jig.Is.Up.
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yes @Dominate

you can go to a university straight out of HS, declare a major right away, and begin working towards it. there are a certain amount of general ed credits (math, english, etc.) you have to complete along the way, and are usually pre-requisites for higher level classes in any field, but yea - as long as you complete your specified major credits along with your gen eds, you are granted any Bachelors degree you want in 4 years or less out of HS

the reasons people usually go to colleges (usually community colleges, lower tier schools) are either because they're vastly cheaper (and a good place to get gen ed classes done), they did poorly in HS and couldn't get into an accredited university, or because they just want an Associates degree to enter the workforce ASAP.
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@dead man WTF aren't you English?
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They r colleges & we do call them that, also. HAVENT U BEEN READING SNOOP!?!? R U JUST SAYING U UNDERSTAND BECAUSE U DONT UNDERTSAND AND U DONT CARE FOR US TO CONTINUE TRYING TO LEARN U!?!? IS THAT UR GAME SNOOP?!?! well.....the jig is up, bud. The.Jig.Is.Up.
I'm sorry, I probably should've said, "call them ALL colleges". As in, not call some universities just for the sake of fucking with foreigners who try to understand your education system. Does that make more sense to you? :)
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Like British? Fuck no

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lmao wow.

I've known you since like 2005? Always thought you were British

My perception of you has just been rocked

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you can go to a university straight out of HS, declare a major right away, and begin working towards it. there are a certain amount of general ed credits (math, english, etc.) you have to complete along the way, and are usually pre-requisites for higher level classes in any field, but yea - as long as you complete your specified major credits along with your gen eds, you are granted any Bachelors degree you want in 4 years or less out of HS

the reasons people usually go to colleges (usually community colleges, lower tier schools) are either because they're vastly cheaper (and a good place to get gen ed classes done), they did poorly in HS and couldn't get into an accredited university, or because they just want an Associates degree to enter the workforce ASAP.
So college (i.e. not university) is mostly for general education? So it's more like some additional years of high school then? Because here, university means you have one subject and one subject only. No general education at all. That's supposed to be done by the time you finish high school.
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Doctors go to post grad, which is another four years after doing 4 in the general college courses.
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