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...the Nagger · 09-16-2013, 01:52 PM

no, soon as you go to wikipedia it has on archie moore's page the #4 puncher crap you just said

he wasn't a #4 puncher when he was 38 tho, that's prolly something you didn't consider

...the Nagger · 09-16-2013, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Zenland

I'm not hating him. He's of my favorites honestly but not one of the top 5. He was building a persona and he did it successfully. He was feared til people found out he was a quitter lol.

lol so is pacman a quitter?

you not making sense.

its not like tyson was getting punched one time and falling

he was a brawler who lost outside of his prime by KOs. he wasn't a quitter just because he got knocked out a few times after his prime

God Of War · 09-16-2013, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by ...the Munster

no, soon as you go to wikipedia it has on archie moore's page the #4 puncher crap you just said

he wasn't a #4 puncher when he was 38 tho, that's prolly something you didn't consider

actually i knew he fought archie moore and knew archie moore was a champion so i looked it up on a boxing site ...i dont use wikipedia cuz its fucking gay and user submitted garbage most the time

...the Nagger · 09-16-2013, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by God Of War

actually i knew he fought archie moore and knew archie moore was a champion so i looked it up on a boxing site ...i dont use wikipedia cuz its fucking gay and user submitted garbage most the time

word

but point is

archie moore was 38 when rocky faced him

a 38 yr oild brawler with over 140 matches under his belt at that point in time

Zen · 09-16-2013, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by ...the Munster

lol so is pacman a quitter?

you not making sense.

its not like tyson was getting punched one time and falling

he was a brawler who lost outside of his prime by KOs. he wasn't a quitter just because he got knocked out a few times after his prime

Getting caught doesn't make you a quitter. Getting knocked down and just not getting up makes you a quitter. Getting the fuck beat out of you and getting dq'd instead of fighting it out makes you a quitter. The point is he quit early on and lost his heart and just stopped giving a fuck. After Cus D'Amoto
Like I've said before, early Tyson=the shit, one punch knockout power and some of the best defense ever. Later Tyson=One punch KO power but not much else. He just didn't dominate long enough to be a great imo.

God Of War · 09-16-2013, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by ...the Munster

word

but point is

archie moore was 38 when rocky faced him

a 38 yr oild brawler with over 140 matches under his belt at that point in time

lol but still bro u can find a reason mayweather beat all of his oppenents to,, de la hoyas dog died, ortiz mom broke her foot

lmao he still won and they were still big name boxers at the time,,he didnt beat just no bodies

Zen · 09-16-2013, 02:07 PM

How about we say they're all great? lol

God Of War · 09-16-2013, 02:16 PM

ali vs tyson ....tyson wins

who agrees?

...the Nagger · 09-16-2013, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by God Of War

lol but still bro u can find a reason mayweather beat all of his oppenents to,, de la hoyas dog died, ortiz mom broke her foot

lmao he still won and they were still big name boxers at the time,,he didnt beat just no bodies

PLEASE read this next sentence carefully.

List all the great fighters Rocky faced.

Then after that we can continue the convo.

...the Nagger · 09-16-2013, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Zenland

Getting caught doesn't make you a quitter. Getting knocked down and just not getting up makes you a quitter. Getting the fuck beat out of you and getting dq'd instead of fighting it out makes you a quitter. The point is he quit early on and lost his heart and just stopped giving a fuck. After Cus D'Amoto
Like I've said before, early Tyson=the shit, one punch knockout power and some of the best defense ever. Later Tyson=One punch KO power but not much else. He just didn't dominate long enough to be a great imo.

he's not a quitter tho

you have a problem differentiating between getting beat and quitting.

Mike Tyson is retarded. He didn't get dq'd because he quit, he got dq'd because he is mentally retarded and got so angry at the approach Holyfield took in the ring that he bit him.

Every time tyson moved in to swing Holyfield completely balled up and grabbed Tyson, or he purposely placed his elbows, head in his way because he knew with his length he could use that approach and Tyson wouldn't be able to hit him.

It was weak imo but it worked, and was very frustrating. With Tyson being retarded he couldn't handle the frustration.

Zen · 09-16-2013, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ...the Munster

he's not a quitter tho

you have a problem differentiating between getting beat and quitting.

I've been saying the same thing for like two fucking pages lol.
Tyson has no heart. What is heart? The ability to take punishment and give it back in return. Why doesn't Tyson have heart? Because when he gets hit he QUITS.
Show me proof that says otherwise.

Defy Gravity · 09-16-2013, 03:23 PM

^
Tyson vs tucker

Tyson vs Ruddock

Tyson vs smith

all fighters who fought him hard

Joe Metts · 09-16-2013, 03:26 PM

Some of yall are stupid boxing fans.

I won't elaborate on that.

But i will say floyd has done nothing but outclass the best fighters in the world for 17 years. Canelo was 15 lbs heavier and was the biggest fight available in the world. Floyd made him look silly and is 13 years his elder. Floyd is a top 10 fighter. Ridiculous to think otherwise.

...the Nagger · 09-16-2013, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Zenland

I've been saying the same thing for like two fucking pages lol.
Tyson has no heart. What is heart? The ability to take punishment and give it back in return. Why doesn't Tyson have heart? Because when he gets hit he QUITS.
Show me proof that says otherwise.

BUT YOU HAVE SHOWN 0 PROOF THAT HE'S A QUITTER

yea, we keep repeating the same thing because you don't know what a quitter is lol

tyson was not a quitter bro.

plus he DID get up against buster douglas, its still debated to this day whether or not he got up in time

Zen · 09-16-2013, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by ...the Munster

BUT YOU HAVE SHOWN 0 PROOF THAT HE'S A QUITTER

yea, we keep repeating the same thing because you don't know what a quitter is lol

tyson was not a quitter bro.

plus he DID get up against buster douglas, its still debated to this day whether or not he got up in time

Once he got hit he'd never fuckin come back from it. Whereas Ali would keep comin back and if Tyson's one punch didn't work he fuckin quit tryin. Like I've said before Tyson is one of my favorites just because of his kos. But if he didn't get a ko he looked pitiful.
Tbh I've never seen anyone defend Tyson so much lol.

Baron Mynd · 09-17-2013, 04:26 AM

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Marciano?

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Dead.

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Originally Posted by God Of War

you are a moron stop speaking on boxing it makes you look fucking stupid

and sugar ray stats kill mayweather

jack dempsey>mayweather

rocky>mayweather

three suckers with one troll post

this is too easy sometimes, tbh :)

...the Nagger · 09-17-2013, 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Zenland

Once he got hit he'd never fuckin come back from it. Whereas Ali would keep comin back and if Tyson's one punch didn't work he fuckin quit tryin. Like I've said before Tyson is one of my favorites just because of his kos. But if he didn't get a ko he looked pitiful.
Tbh I've never seen anyone defend Tyson so much lol.

but ppl say Ali has no heart

which I also don't agree with

gettin dogged in the ring cuz you ain't in the right conditioning isn't the same as quitting, its just as simple as that

Tyson stood there toe to toe every time. If he fell it was cuz he took a real beating

there are matches where he got hit and DIDN'T fall yo, that should be proof right there to counter that argument.

Zen · 09-17-2013, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by ...the Munster

but ppl say Ali has no heart

which I also don't agree with

gettin dogged in the ring cuz you ain't in the right conditioning isn't the same as quitting, its just as simple as that

Tyson stood there toe to toe every time. If he fell it was cuz he took a real beating

there are matches where he got hit and DIDN'T fall yo, that should be proof right there to counter that argument.

The point is if he got to a point where he couldn't knock them out he gave up. You won't convince me otherwise and I won't convince you ptherwise and I'd rather not spend today saying the same thing I did yesterday lol.
Am I the only person that thinks this about Tyson?

...the Nagger · 09-17-2013, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Zenland

The point is if he got to a point where he couldn't knock them out he gave up. You won't convince me otherwise and I won't convince you ptherwise and I'd rather not spend today saying the same thing I did yesterday lol.
Am I the only person that thinks this about Tyson?

idk its just funny to me think about it

if he ISN'T hitting his opponent, and is getting hit, and it takes him til like round 9 to fall, that means he quit after getting beat on for rounds and not being able to hit his opponent?

I thought it was just called losing. but since he knocks ppl out if he gets knocked out its all of a sudden its him quitting

it just sounds funny.

uh-oh · 09-17-2013, 10:16 AM

tyson never quit mentally

he would gas and get beat tho.

after cus died his head was never right again. tyson is the GOAT hands down imo. for the simple fact no one could beat him. ali wouldnt have made it out of the second round.

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Originally Posted by Zenland

6 of his five losses were by KO or TKO. Compare that to a guy like Ali (a boxer with heart) he got TKO'd once and that was because his corner stopped it. He bit Holyfield because he has no heart and knew he couldn't beat him so he wanted to get media attention and it worked. He's now known as that guy that bit that guy's ear off instead of one of the greatest.
I'm not saying he didn't fight better competition. He did. He's just a quitter. If he kept being serious about boxing and not all of the shit on the side he would easily be top 5.
And what do you mean he doesn't gas? He has asthma lol. Every fight that went longer than five rounds he was gassing.

he bit holyfield because every time they exchanged holyfield headbutted him

he blacked out and went savage and bit his ear off lmao, then continued to try and fight him afterward, not box, but fight.

tyson was a fucking warrior

when his mind was right he was unbeatable. trying to talk about tyson in the post buster douglas days is like trying to talk about roy jones jr now

what they do now shouldnt affect their legacy

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...the Nagger Junior Member Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 2,856 Battle Record: 4-4 Rep Power: 15781387	no, soon as you go to wikipedia it has on archie moore's page the #4 puncher crap you just said he wasn't a #4 puncher when he was 38 tho, that's prolly something you didn't consider

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Zen Arm the Homeless Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 4,102 Battle Record: 22-24 Champed - Art of Writing League Rep Power: 35079722	How about we say they're all great? lol

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God Of War The Landlord Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 5,822 Battle Record: 12-10 Rep Power: 10493983	ali vs tyson ....tyson wins who agrees?

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Joe Metts Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Hanover, PA Posts: 2,760 Battle Record: 14-6 Rep Power: 18112003	Some of yall are stupid boxing fans. I won't elaborate on that. But i will say floyd has done nothing but outclass the best fighters in the world for 17 years. Canelo was 15 lbs heavier and was the biggest fight available in the world. Floyd made him look silly and is 13 years his elder. Floyd is a top 10 fighter. Ridiculous to think otherwise.