NFL Pick 'Em 13 Week 1

[PancakeBrah]

Lmfao @ 11 starters on the bench

I wish I was still a dillusional fan :(

[Fart]

Nik called em old, so their oldddd.

[...the Nagger]

yo

our entire team is built from either the draft or from undrafted free agents

you damn right we got 11 starters ion the bench fool

our team is not normal

we don't go crazy for 25 year old free agents

we build our team from the dirt and pass the torch to them when its their time

when is the last time we signed a free agent fill a starting position on the roster?

even at our second corner, will gay left (became a starter somewhere else because of else)

then off the bench came keenan lewis. was a starter, beasted, now he left for money too

now its cortez allen. dude is already nice

yall gone see this year

other teams rebuild, we pass the torch

and every time one of our system players leave they suck

[PancakeBrah]

>Steelers are a 7-9 team
>Steelers have a entire backup defense of starters


lol @ logic.

DA BEARS R GOIN 2 WIN 5 SUPERBOWLS DIS YEAR!

[Alvin Karpis]

Originally Posted by PancakeBrah

>Steelers are a 7-9 team
>Steelers have a entire backup defense of starters


lol @ logic.

DA BEARS R GOIN 2 WIN 5 SUPERBOWLS DIS YEAR!

lol you're either crazy, misinformed, or trolling

[...the Nagger]

we haven't had a losing record in maybe the last 15 years homie

gets ya facts straight

[PancakeBrah]

I'm saying they will, though.

The squadrant is weak.

brb weak WR's
brb Roethlisberger the most overrated QB

[uh-oh]

roethlisberger is rated right

i would say he's underrated honestly. people sleep on him

he won me over with the SB winning throw to HOLMES years back

anymore he is PEDESTRIAN tho because the steelers havent had a run game worth mentioning in years

[PancakeBrah]

Nah, he's a poor man's Cam Newton. He just happened to have landed on great teams. He's lucky he got drafted by Pittsburgh.

[uh-oh]

Originally Posted by PancakeBrah

Nah, he's a poor man's Cam Newton. He just happened to have landed on great teams. He's lucky he got drafted by Pittsburgh.

i can't take anything you say football related serious anymore

i will chalk this up to hate and give you another chance in the future tho cuz your my e-bro.

cam newton is and always will be a bum. big ben makes it happen. he just has a terrible O-line and usually always does because pittsburgh takes MAULERS who can't pass block to save there life. roethlisbergers still g enough to shake off the best pass rushers in the league and make throws to terrible receivers.

cam newton is just wack all around

but thats my hate coming through. never liked him. never will.

[Fart]

MORE LIKE WORTHLESS BURGER
AMIRITE

[uh-oh]

i'm biased tho

AFC NORF>

[PancakeBrah]

You would seriously take Ben over Cam? Cam has the potential to be a Top 5 QB.

Leaving Cam to the side, Ben's never been a Top 5 QB in terms of talent. We can argue about clutch and how that factors in, and he definitely is clutch in big moments. But he's so inconsistent. Anytime people talk about him as "elite" it's always in anecdotal ways. "No one could do what he does with that line" or "He plays well when it matters most", etc. I just think he lucked out into a great team and made a few clutch plays. I'd take a dozen QB's over him if I'm starting a team, without taking age into account.

Word @ the Browns D, though. I have them as my starting D in my 12 teamer. They'll be a scrappy team. Not a playoff contender, but they'll be respectable. Which is a big step for them.

edit-

And yeah, I do hate on the Steelers. Living in Ohio for a large chunk of my life and seeing the number of Steelers fans who have no real reason to be Steeler fans other than they're the Yankees of the NFL irked me. Bandwagon to the fullest, but every single one of them has a "legit" reason for rooting for them. And then they'll talk shit about all the SuperBowls they won, most before they were even alive, like they're a superior fan because their teams superior in history. Annoying as fuck fanbase.

[Alvin Karpis]

Originally Posted by PancakeBrah

You would seriously take Ben over Cam? Cam has the potential to be a Top 5 QB.

Leaving Cam to the side, Ben's never been a Top 5 QB in terms of talent. We can argue about clutch and how that factors in, and he definitely is clutch in big moments. But he's so inconsistent. Anytime people talk about him as "elite" it's always in anecdotal ways. "No one could do what he does with that line" or "He plays well when it matters most", etc. I just think he lucked out into a great team and made a few clutch plays. I'd take a dozen QB's over him if I'm starting a team, without taking age into account.

Word @ the Browns D, though. I have them as my starting D in my 12 teamer. They'll be a scrappy team. Not a playoff contender, but they'll be respectable. Which is a big step for them.

I agree w/ the fact he's not your conventional qb and it's not as pretty to watch as you're other elite qb's but w/ injuries aside I'm not sure where you're getting the inconsistency from?

He's been in the league since 04 and has 2 rings

[veritas]

Originally Posted by Alvin Karpis

I agree w/ the fact he's not your conventional qb and it's not as pretty to watch as you're other elite qb's but w/ injuries aside I'm not sure where you're getting the inconsistency from?

He's been in the league since 04 and has 2 rings

Karp the goat

Big Ben is not inconsistent.

The steelers are inconsistent, tho.

[PancakeBrah]

Let's be real, though, he was horrid in that Seahawks SuperBowl. But I can't take away anything from his second.

Inconsistent in game to game performance. He'll have more 180 yard ,1 td, 1 pick games than any other "elite" QB. That's just random stats and I'd be fucked out if I researched to back it up, but it's true. You can say stats don't matter, but they're the indicator we have of performance. He's not the rock that Rodgers, Manning, Brady, and Ryan are.

[Alvin Karpis]

Originally Posted by PancakeBrah

Let's be real, though, he was horrid in that Seahawks SuperBowl. But I can't take away anything from his second.

Inconsistent in game to game performance. He'll have more 180 yard ,1 td, 1 pick games than any other "elite" QB. That's just random stats and I'd be fucked out if I researched to back it up, but it's true. You can say stats don't matter, but they're the indicator we have of performance. He's not the rock that Rodgers, Manning, Brady, and Ryan are.

All valid points, but I'm not sure why you mentioned stats because if you compare his career stats he's already solidified his spot as an elite qb

[PancakeBrah]

Originally Posted by Alvin Karpis

All valid points, but I'm not sure why you mentioned stats because if you compare his career stats he's already solidified his spot as an elite qb

I don't have the stats in front of me but I'd be surprised if he's 'elite' in terms of yardage or TD-INT ration. Could be wrong, though.

[...the Nagger]

HAHAHA YO THIS GUY SAID

AYO THIS GUY IS IS KILLIN ME

YO THIS GUY SAID BEN IS A POOR MAN'S CAM NEWTON

YO