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Old 07-08-2014, 01:39 PM   #21
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Man,will always have a need to believe I'm something.

Religion offers that at its simplest form

So no. Religion will always be around....it will probably
Evolve into something else as the generations pass.
But the core of religion will always be present.

It's human nature to congregate.
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Old 07-08-2014, 02:59 PM   #22
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Lol, I enjoy it when people use quotes as law.


"There is no knowledge that is not power"


Is there a "human decency gene" that people are born with that I didn't know about?

I'm pretty sure it's a learned thing, if we can just agree that the Bible can be a solid teaching tool, we can move forward in this discussion. I mean, the 10 commandments seem decent.
I think what he means is the bible or religion in general is not the SOLE source of moralsor ethics, as a lot of religious folk will have you believe.

Whatever you need to get thru life is your business, but don't get at me saying I'm going to hell just because I live in a different way, cuz that's just gonna get you punched in the face for being an obnoxious fuck, you know?

Btw i don't mean you as in YOU lol I got love for Batty da gawd.
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Old 07-08-2014, 03:58 PM   #23
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I think what he means is the bible or religion in general is not the SOLE source of moralsor ethics, as a lot of religious folk will have you believe.

Whatever you need to get thru life is your business, but don't get at me saying I'm going to hell just because I live in a different way, cuz that's just gonna get you punched in the face for being an obnoxious fuck, you know?

Btw i don't mean you as in YOU lol I got love for Batty da gawd.

Yeah, I feel ya 100 on that, trust... especially the part about "whatever you need to get thru life...", that's actually my point, I don't care if a person is spiritual or not, I don't care if they think I'm going to hell or whatever they might think. The point is, we all have been influenced whether it be from a mentor, a preacher, a friend, a life experience, a book, etc. We are not born with morals or a code, we create that shit ourselves even if we choose a religion. Even if a person decides to choose Christianity out of all the other religions out there, there are TONS of denominations to choose from, some very different from others.

Disgruntled atheists would just generally have us believe that all Christians are deep woods Southern Baptists who dance with snakes and hold BURN IN HELL FAGS signs just as a lot of anti-Catholics would have you believe all Priests jack little boys. I got friends who are preachers, atheists, muslims, etc. I was just saying, I ain't got no anger towards anybody trying to get some faith and be good.

I'm saying all this and I don't even go to church myself lol.
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The function of religion will always be debated. There will always be various sects but the question is will the judeo-christian religions be able to evolve into something wiser and less volatile. The key is stop treating humans like gods or sages (jesus, mohammed, socrates, buddha, plato, epictetus) and acknowledge that we all have tremendous untapped spiritual power. I believe in the Force like in Star Wars.
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Let's think of religions as operating systems. There are many different kinds, each with its own methodology. Religions give people a mythology to follow, along with traditions that help to keep that mythology in a state of importance in society(remember, "myth" means nothing more than something which someone believes to be true). This breeds cultural identity. I believe this is where the positive effect of religion in globalized society is most dully noted. We need eclectic thinkers with widespread cultural insight. But the more we influence each other, don't we become capped under the same cultural casing?
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Let's think of religions as operating systems. There are many different kinds, each with its own methodology. Religions give people a mythology to follow, along with traditions that help to keep that mythology in a state of importance in society(remember, "myth" means nothing more than something which someone believes to be true). This breeds cultural identity. I believe this is where the positive effect of religion in globalized society is most dully noted. We need eclectic thinkers with widespread cultural insight. But the more we influence each other, don't we become capped under the same cultural casing?
I agree with Fred. You are saying very few things in very many words. Jettison the superfluous trimmings here, we are dealing with an easily defined issue. Do we need flexible thinkers in order to better control the great force of religion? The answer is yes, child...
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Old 07-08-2014, 04:49 PM   #29
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The function of religion will always be debated. There will always be various sects but the question is will the judeo-christian religions be able to evolve into something wiser and less volatile. The key is stop treating humans like gods or sages (jesus, mohammed, socrates, buddha, plato, epictetus) and acknowledge that we all have tremendous untapped spiritual power. I believe in the Force like in Star Wars.
Don't treat "humans as sages" yet we all have untapped spiritual powers? LOL

And Star Wars was heavily influenced by religion specifically Christianity with Anakin being "The chosen one" and bringing balance to the Force.

It's always an entertaining obstacle in discussions to see people say God doesn't exist but UFO's, Bigfoot, ghosts and the Illuminati is on some real shit.

May the Force be with you.
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lol. God isn't jesus. There is a spiritual force which cannot be fully comprehended by humans. May the force be with you young genius...
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Don't treat "humans as sages" yet we all have untapped spiritual powers? LOL

And Star Wars was heavily influenced by religion specifically Christianity with Anakin being "The chosen one" and bringing balance to the Force.

It's always an entertaining obstacle in discussions to see people say God doesn't exist but UFO's, Bigfoot, ghosts and the Illuminati is on some real shit.

May the Force be with you.
always entertaining to see absolute retards who think people can walk on water
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TRUTH:

no one living knows what happens when they will die.
everyone will die.

There is written evidence of life after death.
There is physical proof of an intelligence greater than ours.

Since I know that I will die, and that there is something after this, I care about it.

I am a sinner.
We are all sinners.
we can not stop sinning.

Good works will not erase this, our frail human nature.
Jesus saves us from this, because we cannot save ourselves.
Jesus is the God of gods.
let us always be honest withourselves and our nature and this universe (s)
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^^ child mentality. I estimate VERITAS' try hard IQ at 120 tops, probably 115. Not exceptionally smart so it makes sense he can't understand his ignorance. Men cannot replicate fish and walk on water. There is a commonality in the thought of "sage" types and that commonality is not that they are god incarnate
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Glad we have the crack netcees team on the religion case.

I'm sure well get to the bottom of this in no time flat.

Its refreshing to see religious debate on the internet. Finally! Now keep giving me more amazing ideas to read!
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Glad we have pancake complaining about these threads again.

I'm sure nobody will pay attention to his opinions again.

It's refreshing to see he hasn't changed his mindset. Yes! He's really so smart to point out his self-absorbed opinions.
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Its refreshing to see religious debate on the internet. Finally! Now keep giving me more amazing ideas to read!
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I'm sure well get to the bottom of this in no time flat.

Its refreshing to see religious debate on the internet. Finally! Now keep giving me more amazing ideas to read!
Your sarcasm often brightens my days.

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