Pac man gonna TrAsh Spence...

[Scar]

Originally Posted by Clout

And of course you leave out that del la Hoya was old and severely weight drained right? That was the golden boy that was retirement and weight drained Oscar after floyd beat him. Margarito was subpar without plaster of Paris for hand wraps. You have 2 weak points and Oscar is no where near as strong and muscular as erol spence is. Spence will not be weight drained like Oscar was nor will he be past his prime per say. Yes erol had a bad accident but he is working through it. Like I said I haven't really sat down and thought this one through. This week I'm a sit down and review the tale of the tape my friend. Then ill give my educated guess/prediction.

Keith looked like shit vs Paxman and got knocked down. He takes too many lay offs had he fought pac after the garcia win itd a been a diff story. But thats thurmans own fault all these injuries and long lay offs he is no spring chicken anymore. Pac is special not just anyone is gonna beat him even and aged Pac man he still has some left in the tank

many had to go up two weight classes so he was not anywhere near his natural fight weight (at the time), Oscar only went down one so if anyone was at a weight disadvantage, it would be pacquiao. I'll give you that oscar isn't a strong as spence, but he's a better boxer. Spence best boxing demonstration was against Mikey and even then you can see the contrasts in skill between him and delahoya. We've seen big motherfucker trying to outmuscle pacquaio and it doesn't look so good. ask Margarito and cotto who both essentially just planned to punk manny. they ended up looking like potatoes. Spence is even more flat-footed than those two guys. it would be like fighting a statue for manny. And manny's been in the ring with a fighter who hit harder than spence in One Time. People who spar and fought both keith and spence said that thurman is the harder hitting welterweight. should be a dope fight. I'm sure we'll be here for the recap.

[Clout]

Originally Posted by Scar

many had to go up two weight classes so he was not anywhere near his natural fight weight (at the time), Oscar only went down one so if anyone was at a weight disadvantage, it would be pacquiao. I'll give you that oscar isn't a strong as spence, but he's a better boxer. Spence best boxing demonstration was against Mikey and even then you can see the contrasts in skill between him and delahoya. We've seen big motherfucker trying to outmuscle pacquaio and it doesn't look so good. ask Margarito and cotto who both essentially just planned to punk manny. they ended up looking like potatoes. Spence is even more flat-footed than those two guys. it would be like fighting a statue for manny. And manny's been in the ring with a fighter who hit harder than spence in One Time. People who spar and fought both keith and spence said that thurman is the harder hitting welterweight. should be a dope fight. I'm sure we'll be here for the recap.

U clearly aren't experienced in this. Del la Hoya weighed under 147 due to a catch weight...he was weight drained and old. Cotto was under 147 lbs for that fight because manny was Mr. Catch weight he never fought those two at their natural weights or at 147 lbs. He fought them for a 147 lbs title and made those guys weigh under 145 lbs.......let this sink in. Why are you fighting hamps at 147 lbs but refuse to fight them weighing in at 147 lbs? The fact you didn't mention the catch weights shows you don't know boxing and are just bored due to quarantine and are trying to hop in on this keen discussion on the sweet science. This is not your sport. Two big bloopers there my friend. Again stop mentioning washed up Margarito. Margarito needed plaster of paris hand wraps..do you even know what plaster of Paris is? You didn't even mention it in ur rebuttal....Mann @Amen @Aero get this nigga a sippily cup and a high chair he ain't rdy to talk to the gods

KEITH THURMAN HASNT BEEN ONE TIME IN A LONG TIME. He is not a power puncher. His ko ratio plummeted as soon as he fought the top dogs of the division. 140 lbs manuel hits harder he visibly hurt Paxman in every fight they had and even ko'd when pac was sub 37 yrs old.....at 42 yrs of age bro thurman couldn't even buzz the filipino bambino

[Scar]

Originally Posted by Clout

U clearly aren't experienced in this. Del la Hoya weighed under 147 due to a catch weight...he was weight drained and old. Cotto was under 147 lbs for that fight because manny was Mr. Catch weight he never fought those two at their natural weights or at 147 lbs. He fought them for a 147 lbs title and made those guys weigh under 145 lbs.......let this sink in. Why are you fighting hamps at 147 lbs but refuse to fight them weighing in at 147 lbs? The fact you didn't mention the catch weights shows you don't know boxing and are just bored due to quarantine and are trying to hop in on this keen discussion on the sweet science. This is not your sport. Two big bloopers there my friend. Again stop mentioning washed up Margarito. Margarito needed plaster of paris hand wraps..do you even know what plaster of Paris is? You didn't even mention it in ur rebuttal....Mann @Amen @Aero get this nigga a sippily cup and a high chair he ain't rdy to talk to the gods

KEITH THURMAN HASNT BEEN ONE TIME IN A LONG TIME. He is not a power puncher. His ko ratio plummeted as soon as he fought the top dogs of the division. 140 lbs manuel hits harder he visibly hurt Paxman in every fight they had and even ko'd when pac was sub 37 yrs old.....at 42 yrs of age bro thurman couldn't even buzz the filipino bambino

lol!! im not sure why youre so fixated on my boxing knowledge. If it makes you feel any better then sure go ahead, you are more knowledgeable than me. happy? now lets get to this.

im familiar with catch weight. you talking about the bigger guy are at a disadvantage due to catch weight. well the reason for that is so the small guy don't get killed. That's the purpose of catch weight, my knowledgable friend, to make sure things are as safe as possible. Yes, you are right, oscar was underweight and drained, but he said it himself that he felt great and is ready to go when interviewed. He also gained 2 pounds back on fight night. so yes he was right back to 147. Also, oscar had notable advantages as well. He was 5 inches taller than pacman, meaning he has the luxury of punching downward which should add more force since its going with gravity. and he had a 5 inch arm reach advantage.
What im trying to say is, is it possible that manny was just better? Oscar had no answer for manny's speed and movement and his gameplan was very strange. with an arm reach advantage, its advisable to utilize the jabs which oscar didn't really do. Perhaps manny's counter-punching made him nervous but he didn't utilized the jab nearly as much as he should, instead opting for a counter-punching style which woud be rendered useless againt someone as quick as pacquio. And lets be clear, manny did gain 7 pounds i believe for this fight which would slow him down considerably. Margarito may have used plaster but he didnt' use it against manny and manny went on record to say that margrito was the hardest puncher he's fought up until he went against one time. So his fighting merit still stands. he's a heavy puncher. i personally think he's a middle weight but thats neither here nor there. on to point 3, thurman is one of the top three welterweight along with Spence and Bud. He's a good intelligent boxer, so i don't know why you are downplaying him. Shit i'd say he a better boxer than spence. Him be beaten by pacqquio isnt so much a commentary on keith but more on how good manny was. In boxing, speed kills. The only thing that can neutralize and dominate speed is timing. And that's the reason why floyd and JMM was able to beat manny. they have an uncanny sense of timing. it did took JMM 4 times to figure manny's timing out but he did it, so credit to him. Floyd is the best boxer of the time so u know he can utilize timing efficiently. Unfortunately, Spence doesn't show any of such acumen. Don't get me wrong, he's my 3rd fav boxers right now behind, terrence crawford and shakur stevenson.

and no need to recruit reinforcement lmao. you win. clearly this shit is very important to you lol.