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Old 02-15-2021, 09:32 PM   #1
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Ether. Impossible to grasp without true objectivity.
I agree with the quote too. You're just using it wrong. You assume we don't examine perspectives of medical professionals who disagree with vaccines.

I've looked at all of your "evidence". Every single time. I also am weighing that evidence against (1) the opinions of many other medical professionals with a wide variety of opinions, (2) data about incidence of the virus, and (3) basic common sense about the spread and prevention of viruses.

each of these things not only largely contradict your opposing viewpoints, but also support each other as more reasonable interpretations of facts than the ones you propose.

you call me ignorant for evaluating these minority views in light of the majority views, data, and common sense. ironically you're the one who refuses to fairly evaluate the opinions of people who know more about the subject than you do.

replace the word oppose with support in the original quote and now it applies to you.








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Old 02-16-2021, 10:27 AM   #2
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I agree with the quote too. You're just using it wrong. You assume we don't examine perspectives of medical professionals who disagree with vaccines.
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ironically you're the one who refuses to fairly evaluate the opinions of people who know more about the subject than you do.
Who's doing the assuming here?

Also, please reference the evidence you have of me "unfairly evaluating the opinions of people who know more about the subject than I do"


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each of these things not only largely contradict your opposing viewpoints, but also support each other as more reasonable interpretations of facts than the ones you propose.
Very easy to say blanket statements like this INSTEAD OF individually addressing any specific point made.

Any attempts you've made in the past haven't worked. I see you're still trying though. Keep it up.







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Old 02-16-2021, 03:02 PM   #3
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Who's doing the assuming here?
You are. I was pretty clear about that in my post, not sure how I lost you on that. Or are you going to pretend you never claimed I'm not examining the perspectives of your selected professionals?

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Also, please reference the evidence you have of me "unfairly evaluating the opinions of people who know more about the subject than I do"
See every thread where we've argued about the COVID pandemic. A key assumption on your part is that the opinions of medical professionals who are not generally experts with viruses or infectious diseases should be taken over the opinions of the CDC, the organization that was specifically created to address pandemics and is widely regarded as one of the most knowledgeable voices on the subject.

And you go way above and beyond simply disagreeing with their professional opinions. You basically accuse them of engaging in a conspiracy to willfully mislead the entire world population and trick people into taking a vaccine for some nefarious (but as yet unspecified) purpose. What part of that is a unbiased evaluation based on the facts?

Even assuming your medical experts are equally credible (but to be clear they are NOT), at best you would be able to claim that the science is controversial or inconclusive. Jumping from that to a worldwide conspiracy is not supported by evidence and a clear indication of your biased perspective.


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Very easy to say blanket statements like this INSTEAD OF individually addressing any specific point made.
Just following your lead my friend. Besides every time I refute your arguments point by point you just ignore any comments you find inconvenient and goal post shift to focus on some minor semantic or technical detail where you feel you are correct.

See your upcoming response for examples. I will also accept a non response as proof that your argument is baseless.
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Old 02-18-2021, 12:48 AM   #4
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You are. I was pretty clear about that in my post, not sure how I lost you on that. Or are you going to pretend you never claimed I'm not examining the perspectives of your selected professionals?
You clearly missed the point of me posting your 2 quotes


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See every thread where we've argued about the COVID pandemic. A key assumption on your part is that the opinions of medical professionals who are not generally experts with viruses or infectious diseases should be taken over the opinions of the CDC, the organization that was specifically created to address pandemics and is widely regarded as one of the most knowledgeable voices on the subject.
Pure bullshit. I’ve quoted and posted links to and from many credible experts in the field including professionals still employed by the cdc. Every single medical professional I’ve sourced is smarter than you. Nice try at making up shit though .

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And you go way above and beyond simply disagreeing with their professional opinions. You basically accuse them of engaging in a conspiracy to willfully mislead the entire world population and trick people into taking a vaccine for some nefarious (but as yet unspecified) purpose. What part of that is a unbiased evaluation based on the facts?

Even assuming your medical experts are equally credible (but to be clear they are NOT), at best you would be able to claim that the science is controversial or inconclusive. Jumping from that to a worldwide conspiracy is not supported by evidence and a clear indication of your biased perspective.
Iirc, I addressed this in a long winded response to Ajax, specifically addressing if I felt it was a conspiracy or not among doctors worldwide. It might’ve been in the other big thread I made. Once you read that, you will realize what you wrote here is a huge, incorrect, assumption on your part, and mostly stereotypical.

If you’re gonna make a shit post at least make it concise
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Old 02-18-2021, 11:46 PM   #5
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every time I refute your arguments point by point you just ignore any comments you find inconvenient and goal post shift to focus on some minor semantic or technical detail where you feel you are correct.

See your upcoming response for examples.
Enough said.
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