is World War 3 going to happen?

[Smod of War]

Originally Posted by fraze

There is likely to be conflict as China rises to become a new world power.

Russia is also struggling against decline and have taken an agressive stance against the West.

Iran and North Korea are unstable nuclear powers.

Terrorism (and the desire to fight wars to stop it is still a thing).

The United States is arguably in decline and has incentives to use its military industrial engine for perpetual war to stabilize its position.

And if you were a power player in any of these situations, would you rather take action during the waning days of the chaos of Trump or in a more stable and assertive Biden administration?

Not saying conflict will definitely happen. But the shit is ripe.

More stable and assertive Biden administration? LMAO you’ve gotta be smoking dick

[fraze]

this is what i get for trying to discuss geopolitics on a text battling board.

[El Muffin]

China’s been capable tho for eons

Nothing you saying is cause for alarm

You act like they are some emerging power

Plus .. a more stable or assertive figurehead Being in power doesn’t make us more likely to engage in something on a massive scale as opposed to a chaotic one


That’s like saying North Korea is more prone to go to war with a pacifist at the helm

So that condescending shit is beyond me .. chill

[fraze]

No China 100% is an emerging power. Use google. I'll wait.

The biggest question in political science right now is how the world will navigate the rise of China as global power.


Apologies if tone is condescending, but most of the stuff I said is accepted as fact if you're reading up on this stuff. It makes for frustrating conversations when you have to argue to get basic premises accepted.

[Pharaohs Army]

Wars of the future will have large EMPs and the hacking of large power systems and other important utilities.

[El Muffin]

^Aware of that . But there would be boots on the ground too I’d imagine

& Fraze .. no big deal . I’ve read up on it too .. I just find it hard to use the term emerging when they’ve been militarily capable of going toe to toe with other major powers for years now

But yeah .. they are becoming increasingly terrifying when you factor in their growth and things of that nature .. so I see what you mean

[fraze]

I guess if I want to be technically correct I should call them an emerging "great" power.

The last time there were multiple great powers in the world (Britain, Germany, Japan, US, Russia) was WWII.

After the war, there were only two great powers until the fall of the soviet union when there was one.

We are still in a uni-polar world with the US having a significant advantage against any other country in defense spending (read: more guns and better technology) and the ability to rapidly project force anywhere on the planet.

Russia wants to reclaim their status as a great power but they've been hurt by sanctions since Ukraine invasion and can't win a head to head fight with the US. That's why they prefer proxy wars and electoral subterfuge.

China has been rising as great power largely on their growing economic strength as globalism moved manufacturing to China and moved large swaths of their population into the world economy. They became the 2nd biggest economy not to long ago and which has allowed them to heavily reinvest in their military (especially in things like artificial intelligence where they are extremely competitive with western tech).

It's actually a pretty big dynamic shift that has only happened in the past decade or so. Trumps presidency has accelerated some of these changes by hurting US status and destabilizing alliances.

Russia (Syria, Ukraine war, assassinations, political interference, economic warfare using oil and natural gas) and China (democratic suppression in Hong Kong and Taiwan, coalition building in South Pacific and Africa) have both been capitalizing on the power vacuums created. Oh yeah and both countries leaders installed themselves as president for life during the Trump admin.

But what the fuck do I know. Apparently I've been "smoking dick"

[El Muffin]

Not disputing any of that

I’m just curious as to why you think an administration under Biden would lead us to war & not trump . Your logic being that “ he’s more assertive and less chaotic “

the former is up for debate might I add. I guess we shall see

[fraze]

I'm not saying Biden would be more likely to lead us to war. I'm saying the gap before the transition to Biden is an opportunity that some leaders might be looking to take advantage of.

Also to be clear, I'm not saying Biden is assertive. I'm saying he would have a more assertive administration in terms of his stated foreign policy goals. His position on Russia is harsher than Trumps. He will likely be pushing additional sanctions due to their election interference.

It's pretty unlikely Biden would start a war of his own volition.

[El Muffin]

Small window there champ

I hear you tho

[fraze]

I'm not saying it's super likely to happen now. But it's something I would pay attention to because its going to be political chaos in the US at least until Jan. 20. You couldn't design a better opportunity to act with America distracted if you were Vladimir Putin.

[El Muffin]

Got ya .

Lmaooo look who viewing this thread

Troll account attempt fail

You can’t post yet can ya “Donald Trump “ xD

[john hensley]

My original point was to be concerned about the Iran China deal a few months back, and Trump's really recent appointment of an Iranian terrorist specialist as DoD leader before he loses the election.

I don't know if it will be WW3, but I just think there's gonna be some pretty big shit that happens.

[El Muffin]

Don’t get me excited cause I akways end up let down :(

[Eviction]

Originally Posted by El Muffin

Elaborate would you kindly

I don't have any points to back up that comment, but if you think about it all countries are beefing, while not a physical war "yet".