all this gay debate shit going round

[oats]

what I'm saying is, the processes we've used to control and manipulate nature are not natural - they are man-made constructs that do not occur in nature. So your example of genetic manipulation is an example of something not natural, because that doesn't happen on its own in nature. Neither do office buildings, parking lots, immunities, etc. Those are things we created as a species, we introduced them to nature. Therefore, they are not natural.


You are right, though; the human population could not be what it is without their unnatural acts. PM me if you want more clarification, don't wanna be blowing up this thread anymore.

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Originally Posted by oats

what I'm saying is, the processes we've used to control and manipulate nature are not natural - they are man-made constructs that do not occur in nature. So your example of genetic manipulation is an example of something not natural, because that doesn't happen on its own in nature. Neither do office buildings, parking lots, immunities, etc. Those are things we created as a species, we introduced them to nature. Therefore, they are not natural.


You are right, though; the human population could not be what it is without their unnatural acts. PM me if you want more clarification, don't wanna be blowing up this thread anymore.

it happens on its own in nature.

we are a part of nature. you are looking at this from a perspective that humans are above animals or some shit.

a scientist changing a chromosone in a seed of corn to make some monsanto shit is ABSOLUTELY NATURAL. its no different than a bee making honey from pollen or whatever they're wizardry is. or a moth in china making silk.

you as a human see it as like, oh thats what moths do, thats natual. humans do what humans do. its natural.

everything we do or can do is natural. if we create a species, thats a natural process.

an alien from zoltar didnt come to this planet and create it. we did. and even if an alien did, whats the difference between that and a meteor with bacteria on it hitting earth? that bacteria isnt natural to the earth.

i think the real argument is the word natural. everything is natural.

i eat pizza and turn it into poop.