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Originally Posted by Pharaohs Army

Gabbard is simply wrong on Syria.

She criticizes our "policy of regime change" there.

Guess what? Assad's still there. So we obviously don't have a policy of regime change. If we did, he'd be gone.

We were intervening to prevent a genocide.

She doesn't have her facts straight.

let's be clear.

our goal has been to overthrow assad for over a decade. that plan has been in action since 2011.

just because we failed, doesn't mean it wasn't the plan. we've failed in venezuela as well. doesn't mean it wasn't the OBVIOUS plan. maybe you don't understand how regime change works?

[Pharaohs Army]

Originally Posted by boof

let's be clear.

our goal has been to overthrow assad for over a decade. that plan has been in action since 2011.

just because we failed, doesn't mean it wasn't the plan. we've failed in venezuela as well. doesn't mean it wasn't the OBVIOUS plan. maybe you don't understand how regime change works?

If we really wanted Assad out, he'd have been out long ago. The U.S. has two problems though. 1)The alternative is backing Muslim terrorists. 2) We don't want to start a hot war with Russia by taking out their guy.

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Originally Posted by Pharaohs Army

If we really wanted Assad out, he'd have been out long ago. The U.S. has two problems though. 1)The alternative is backing Muslim terrorists. 2) We don't want to start a hot war with Russia by taking out their guy.

tbc that first sentence still doesn't mean anything. we tried, we failed. 2012's timber sycamore operation's entire objective was to arm rebel groups to overthrow assad. tbc there was no genocide perpetrated by assad. there were protests against a police state. we took that social momentum and instead filled the country with foreign rebel groups. for a few months syrians welcomed them thinking they were there to help, but soon after they murdered(with our weapons), raped, kidnapped, looted, sold food back to locals at elevated prices, and that's been the story for 7 years. locals are more afraid of the groups we back than the actual syrian army. we(u.s., saudi, u.k, qatar, turkey, etc) made life hell for syrians. we've been backing jihadist extremists this entire time. we faked two chemical attacks to try and overthrow assad. russia's known this the entire time, as has the rest of the world(which was our actual problem with overthrowing assad). the situation is 1,000x more complex than what you just surmised. cia trained rebel groups, we gave arms to groups we knew had connections to al qaeda, the free syrian army are actual extremists, we funded/branded/armed them, bunch of our weapons ended up sold on the black market directly to groups like isis & isil, who have been funded by our ally saudi arabia. it's a proxy war to destabilize syria to overthrow assad that failed. american troops have been illegally occupying syrian oil fields making it impossible for the rest of the country to obtain oil. we've imposed some of the strictest sanctions in the world on syria, and the effects have only hurt syrian people, not assad or his administration at all. it's a failed regime change, to a t.