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Originally Posted by veritas

You being a history buff should see my point about the apostles sir. They all died horrible deaths. Horrible deaths. Horrible.

A man will not die for a lie. He will for the truth. The point is that they believed that Jesus was who he said he was. And that means that he proved it to them with miracles and reincarnating after death.

Think it through. Fair?

thought it through. it doesn't convince me.

also i misled you with my ignorance. in reference to apostles i meant early missionaries and people spreading christianity. my own ignorance thought the term meant in a broad sense, as in the early people spreading the message, i didn't realize it meant the 12 mentioned specifically in the bible.

i only mention that because there isn't really evidence they existed either. in the same way jesus could be a figure representative of early jews resisting the jewish roman regimes, the apostles could represent the early christians who were persecuted in spreading that message.

being a student of history my ignorance of the apostles is expected as they aren't mentioned in actual history. apologies.