Banning AR-15's

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Originally Posted by Sour joog

your perceived inability to change doesn't make you different though does it.

You don't even have to look outwardly, look a bit closer to home. Owning slaves was as American as apple pie. shit still changed and people were just as sure as you were it wouldn't.

nonsense, it was something like 1.5 percent of americans at the HEIGHT of slavery owning slaves. it was never a RIGHT to own a slave. meanwhile 42 percent of households right now own a firearm. then you gotta look at the fact something like 80 percent of americans live in big cities, and alot of those bigger cities have the most restrictions and liberal gun policies because they are full of liberals, hence less gun ownership. (at least legally)

so guns are everywhere

lets pretend its not a "won't"

"can't" still is a pretty big factor in the matter when you try and lay out any plan for actually taking guns from americans who already have them. again, its the thing that will lead to a civil war.

its THE SECOND MOST IMPORTANT THING in our entire history behind being able to freely express yourself.

the only thing more american is freedom of speech, and our right to bear arms is a major factor in upholding that freedom as well as the rest

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Originally Posted by uh-oh

nonsense, it was something like 1.5 percent of americans at the HEIGHT of slavery owning slaves. it was never a RIGHT to own a slave. meanwhile 42 percent of households right now own a firearm. then you gotta look at the fact something like 80 percent of americans live in big cities, and alot of those bigger cities have the most restrictions and liberal gun policies because they are full of liberals, hence less gun ownership. (at least legally)

so guns are everywhere

lets pretend its not a "won't"

"can't" still is a pretty big factor in the matter when you try and lay out any plan for actually taking guns from americans who already have them. again, its the thing that will lead to a civil war.

its THE SECOND MOST IMPORTANT THING in our entire history behind being able to freely express yourself.

the only thing more american is freedom of speech, and our right to bear arms is a major factor in upholding that freedom as well as the rest

The problem is guns have changed. The changes produce different results. You could learn a lot from the guns.

The amendment isn't a reflection of the time we are living in. If you look at the lay of the land of those times. You had a reason for everyone to have guns before the right to them. Now your right to a gun comes before reason.

I'm not saying you should have guns or shouldn't, but you can't expect change without trying to do things differently. Just because you give an inch doesn't mean you'll lose a mile.

You gotta come up with something better than arming teachers though. That's idea is literally retarded

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Originally Posted by Sour joog

The problem is guns have changed. The changes produce different results. You could learn a lot from the guns.

The amendment isn't a reflection of the time we are living in. If you look at the lay of the land of those times. You had a reason for everyone to have guns before the right to them. Now your right to a gun comes before reason.

I'm not saying you should have guns or shouldn't, but you can't expect change without trying to do things differently. Just because you give an inch doesn't mean you'll lose a mile.

You gotta come up with something better than arming teachers though. That's idea is literally retarded

i agree things should be done differently, i just dont think banning guns is the answer

also i'm not for arming teachers, but i'm not deadset against a teacher who has a concealed carry being allowed to carry on the job.

i thought a good idea would be having a police officer on the premises of every school, but then news comes out there was one who was a coward and hid outside

to pretend there is a simple answer such as banning guns is what is stupid. its a complex issue that requires a complex solution. some restrictions could be part of that solution, like stricter mental health restrictions along with metal detectors and security etc. etc.