Banning AR-15's

[Enbombz]

Everyone thinks their country is special or different but it's not. What works in one country will work in another give time. if everyone had guns here there'd be more of the same. People are people.

[Objective]

Originally Posted by Sour joog

Everyone thinks their country is special or different but it's not. What works in one country will work in another give time. if everyone had guns here there'd be more of the same. People are people.

That's true, but there's no debate in this when the evidence is as clear as it is in this case. There's been no decline in gun violence, a lot of them is due to easy access for kids to get to. Less guns and more safety regulations and control is the only option for the future of the US with the stats the past 30 years we're looking at. It takes a serious effort tho, half assing it or negkect won't work.

I've followed this debate closely for over a decad, since I was 15 or so. Went from pro guns and more lenient control to staying as it is here in Norway throughout the years. And that's heavily based on mistakes and crime committed from spontane actions recorded in the US that are not connected to organized crime/gang violence etc. I don't view my country as more special or less than the US, but I'd lie if I said it made sense for any country to continue like before if they were faced with similar issues given the circumstances they deal with today.

[Nick James]

Originally Posted by Objective

That's true, but there's no debate in this when the evidence is as clear as it is in this case. There's been no decline in gun violence, a lot of them is due to easy access for kids to get to. Less guns and more safety regulations and control is the only option for the future of the US with the stats the past 30 years we're looking at. It takes a serious effort tho, half assing it or negkect won't work.

I've followed this debate closely for over a decad, since I was 15 or so. Went from pro guns and more lenient control to staying as it is here in Norway throughout the years. And that's heavily based on mistakes and crime committed from spontane actions recorded in the US that are not connected to organized crime/gang violence etc. I don't view my country as more special or less than the US, but I'd lie if I said it made sense for any country to continue like before if they were faced with similar issues given the circumstances they deal with today.

its rlly all about puttin these ideas in these kids minds. when u grow up merkin 10, 000 ppl a week in call of duty with ARs n dracos for ur entire childhood u tend to get comfortable with the idea of shootin sum shit up.

[Ghost1]

Scary when Geno has to come into your thread and answer it for u lol.

He's correct tho. As soon as u ban one gun it opens the door to ban more.

[Pakistani Hand Cannon]

Originally Posted by Witty

Psychological assessments seem like a rational idea. A gun is extremely dangerous in the wrong hands...I think more work needs to be done to keep them out of those hands.

the problem comes in discerning what the "wrong" hands are.

& if you're willing to put that moral decision in the hands of the government, you're a moron. point, blank, period.

Originally Posted by Ghost1

As soon as u ban one gun it opens the door to ban more.

this.

totalitarian tiptoe niggas.

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smh though, & niggas really buying the mass shooting narratives huh?

funny. get told "you cant have guns" by people with all the guns. what could possible go wrong. no agendas here. its all for the safety of the people right? don't even entertain anything else other than what your spoon fed.

its simple. everyone bares arms. or nobody does. anything else is a recipe for disaster.

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also, on a sidenote, you niggas talkin about "rights". rights are something you're inherently born with. allow anyone to dictate what your "rights" are & you give them authority over your being.

[Enbombz]

Originally Posted by Rugged

its simple. everyone bares arms. or nobody does. anything else is a recipe for disaster.

I have to agree with this to a large extent and that's the position it finds itself in today.

[Enbombz]

Originally Posted by Objective

That's true, but there's no debate in this when the evidence is as clear as it is in this case. There's been no decline in gun violence, a lot of them is due to easy access for kids to get to. Less guns and more safety regulations and control is the only option for the future of the US with the stats the past 30 years we're looking at. It takes a serious effort tho, half assing it or negkect won't work.

I've followed this debate closely for over a decad, since I was 15 or so. Went from pro guns and more lenient control to staying as it is here in Norway throughout the years. And that's heavily based on mistakes and crime committed from spontane actions recorded in the US that are not connected to organized crime/gang violence etc. I don't view my country as more special or less than the US, but I'd lie if I said it made sense for any country to continue like before if they were faced with similar issues given the circumstances they deal with today.

The thing you have to remember is most smericsns haven't lost someone to gun violence so they aren't directly effected. Most have guns so your taking something away from the majority without them getting anything back.

If your scared of change, sometimes what feels the safest is to do nothing.

[uh-oh]

Originally Posted by Sour joog

Everyone thinks their country is special or different but it's not. What works in one country will work in another give time. if everyone had guns here there'd be more of the same. People are people.

they really aren't though. sure at our base level people are people, but culture plays an enormous factor

like japan being mentioned in this thread. they are a homogeneous culture. i mean hell they were isolationists for the longest, but it bred into them similar ideals, and pride in their nation.

america is different, you can't pretend to think america is like anywhere else. the first bit of "history" we learn is about how we rebelled against our government and "freed" ourselves from tyranny, and that it is our duty to uphold that tradition. we are a "melting pot" and all that nonsense. the problem with a melting pot is the ingredients don't want to mix. thats what takes time. iron melts at a different temperature than copper. etc.

we have swathes of different cultures and it is why we can be so divided

for some it seems like the easiest thing in the world to just say yea ban all guns wtf? because guns aren't a part of their reality. but i grew up with a 357 in my dresser, (my dads) had a 22 rifle and shit when i was like 11. i'd stay over at friends houses as a kid and they had shotguns and shit themselves just from the "hunting" culture. it was nothing. like oh shit thats cool man. we all knew these instruments could take our lives, but so could jumping out the window. it was just another thing

the main irritant in all of this is just the ignorance honestly. whether its a ban on "assault" style weapons because they have a pistol grip, or the belief someone is invincible with a shitty ar-15 because the bullets fly faster than a handguns lol. its just goofy

this is the one issue that could definitely lead to civil war in america.

best case scenario for the left is they ban the manufacture and sale of future weapons, and hell doesn't break loose. worst case scenario, they try to take the millions of "assault style" rifles already on the street, and america as we know it is over

[Enbombz]

Originally Posted by uh-oh

they really aren't though. sure at our base level people are people, but culture plays an enormous factor

like japan being mentioned in this thread. they are a homogeneous culture. i mean hell they were isolationists for the longest, but it bred into them similar ideals, and pride in their nation.

america is different, you can't pretend to think america is like anywhere else. the first bit of "history" we learn is about how we rebelled against our government and "freed" ourselves from tyranny, and that it is our duty to uphold that tradition. we are a "melting pot" and all that nonsense. the problem with a melting pot is the ingredients don't want to mix. thats what takes time. iron melts at a different temperature than copper. etc.

we have swathes of different cultures and it is why we can be so divided

for some it seems like the easiest thing in the world to just say yea ban all guns wtf? because guns aren't a part of their reality. but i grew up with a 357 in my dresser, (my dads) had a 22 rifle and shit when i was like 11. i'd stay over at friends houses as a kid and they had shotguns and shit themselves just from the "hunting" culture. it was nothing. like oh shit thats cool man. we all knew these instruments could take our lives, but so could jumping out the window. it was just another thing

the main irritant in all of this is just the ignorance honestly. whether its a ban on "assault" style weapons because they have a pistol grip, or the belief someone is invincible with a shitty ar-15 because the bullets fly faster than a handguns lol. its just goofy

this is the one issue that could definitely lead to civil war in america.

best case scenario for the left is they ban the manufacture and sale of future weapons, and hell doesn't break loose. worst case scenario, they try to take the millions of "assault style" rifles already on the street, and america as we know it is over

Just excuses though Innit really.