Hold the Door

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Originally Posted by Destroyer

damn reed
nobody said bran didn't fuck up royally
but everyone wondered why hodor only said hodor
aside from just him being a retard, can you think of a better explanation?

HIS NAME IS WALDER

HE'S HIGHLY LIKELY TO BE A FREY. AS THEY NAME ALL THEIR KIDS WALDER TO KISS LORD WALDER'S ASS BECAUSE HEIRSHIP IS SO FUCKED UP IN HOUSE FREY DUE TO ALL THE WIVES HE TOOK.

HALF WITTED'NESS RUNS IN HOUSE FREY. AS EVIDENCED BY THE RETARD THAT CATELYN KILLS DURING THE RED WEDDING.

OR MAYBE BECAUSE HE WAS A STABLE BOY HIS WHOLE LIFE HE GOT KICKED IN HIS HEAD BY HORSE.


or maybe not every goddamn little thing like that needs a backstory. maybe he's just a big half witted oaf who can only say Hodor.

especially not when you consider that they completely taint an important character's whole character to write a backstory for a minor character.. just so people can go "OHHHH SO THAT'S WHY HE TALKS LIKE A POKEMON" right before he dies. CLAP EMOJI. THUMBS UP EMOJI.

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When I first watched I was like ;~;

then the second time I watched I was like waaaaaaait a minute.


same thing with last weeks episode. I watched it and I was like "man.. that was cool"

second watch I'm like wait... Dany just burned the sacred temple of the Dothraki wise women and elders and killed a buncha Khals and upon exiting the burning temple the 10,000 dothraki bow to her? "oh, thank you great white woman for destroying our culture and ending our brown skinned savage ways. we shall follow you to the ends of the earth oh great one"

and why did she do it? I mean, she had been treated as a prisoner of sorts.. but not harmed. and while she's told she COULD have something happen to her, there's no certainty of harm coming her way.. so she kills a buncha dudes and destroys a sacred temple of these people, in their sacred city of peace.. because 'WAAAAH I'M ENTITLED TO MY THRONE AND I WANT IT' *stamps foot* and again this is a protagonist character that we are supposed to like.

and they tie this shit together so fucking loosely it's pathetic. Remember how long it took Dany to get from Vaes Dothrak to Mereen? like... 3 fucking seasons?

granted she's stuck in Qarth for a good portion of ACOK but seriously... Jorah and Daario get from Mereen to where Dany encounters those Dothraki BEFORE THE DOTHRAKI GET FROM THERE TO VAES DOTHRAK. then they fucking FIND HER TINY EARRING IN THE GIANT FIELD in like two minutes and boom. they know how to get to Vaes Dothrak from the middle of nothing they're standing on so fast that Dany barely spends a night there before she's rescued.

I'M FUCKING MAD AT THIS SHOW

[Destroyer]

oh, I see
you've read the books...

[~RustyGunZ~]

I agree that dany is a spoiled bitch

was on her team til I read the books/season 2 midway

I rock with the show though, it's different and you can't compare it to the depth of the books meng

The episode wasn't good but the end was emotional

And I mean it's more the ravens fault than brans. he tells him to warg into hodor in the dreamscape and I'm pretty sure bran just thought that would help him control current hodor while not being able to escape to reality

we'll see though

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Originally Posted by Knucklehead

I rock with the show though, it's different and you can't compare it to the depth of the books meng

This is true.

But for example.

CA: Civil War

took a giant ass war that spanned mad comics and condensed it to a 5 v 5 battle at an airport, basically. But nothing in the process really fucked over the key ideas behind the story, or the characters.

I understand things need be left out. But the show GoT leaves out really important shit.. while adding in shit that does not need to be there. And changes have to be made, yeah, but they could surely be done w/o fucking up characters.

Ever since the change from Robb being stuck between dishonoring himself and dishonoring Jeyne Westerling. to Robb deciding to break an oath because he met some hot foreign chick.. the show has just been on a bender to ruin the character development of the source material and it makes me mad as hell.

[Destroyer]

anyone not on team Dany's titties, I can't relate to
if the whole burning of all the khals was simply to show those titties again, I can get on board with that kind of writing

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Originally Posted by Destroyer

anyone not on team Dany's titties, I can't relate to
if the whole burning of all the khals was simply to show those titties again, I can get on board with that kind of writing

RUINING A CHARACTER FOR THE SAKE OF NUDITY IS NOT A GOOD SHOW GODDAMNIT

even tho book Dany is a brat too, and her motivations are the same.. 1) she's much younger in the books so it's a little more acceptable(but we all know why it had to be changed). 2) the liberties they've taken with her on the show make her way more annoying.

Also annoys me that even GRRM said that Dany nor any other Targaryen was 'fire proof'. like.. they liked hotter bath water, and could withstand SLIGHTLY higher temperatures.. the whole 'unburnt' thing was a one-off magical occurrence.. so yet again, we get lore from the source fucked, and the character fucked up... so we can see tits? cool.

[uh-oh]

anime, we don't know when littlefinger left the vale for moles town. calm down.

also you're tripping BRO. too many points to mention but i'll try

hodors name is wylis. not walder.

dany is not fire proof, she survived the first time because of the black magic involved in BURNING THE WITCH ALIVE, it can be theorized she survived again because she burned all those dudes to death? nitpicking malarkey can only lead you down the path of tomfoolery, brother.

also bran was greenseeing at the time of warging into hodor, which is why young hodor short circuited, he was living his past and future at the same time. it could be said bran HAD to do it or else bran never makes it to the wall, none of this ever happens etc

ive been reading some extra weirdo shit on bran as well, theories that he actually caused everything to happen, like literally everything. the mad kings whispers could be bran talking to him telling him to burn the starks to start the rebellion which would lead to the events that need to happen to stop the wights. bran the builder, and all the brandon starks throughout history could be under his influence, he could be THE major driving force of everything

but again its all malarkey.

i enjoy it

[Destroyer]

on the real tho, I wouldn't even watch the show if it wasn't for arya stark's storyline with my dude jaqen h'ghar

[Mike Wrecka]

The book people that complain about the show are the most annoying fucks ever


It's not exactly the same as the book boo hoo, Literally no one cares. Shame on you for reading several 690 page fantasy novels in the first place.

Here's the last books I read. The Ol Dirty Bastard biography by Buddha Monk and the Mike Tyson auto biography which were both incredible

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Making necessary changes because of time constraints that don't harm the lore of the source material or development of characters are fine


Changes made for cheap reaction that fuck up long term build of a character / undo the lore that story has already put in place are shitty.


Also not sure what kinda cool points you are expecting to score by bragging on the fact you don't read books?

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Uh oh, re-read book one. His name is Walder. Wylis was a show change like Asha Greyjoy > Yarra Greyjoy

[millz]

Asha's name change was done because of how close it was to Osha. That creates confusion.

As I would imagine the name Walder would add confusion without explaining his Frey ties.

[Useless]

Anime getting mad lol wtf

Nothing on the show happens without grrm's approval. He's the one that told the writers and producers how hodor got his name.

And I don't think bran intentionally mind fucked hodor. He was as much a spectator as we were. I don't think he could've stopped it if he wanted to. And while that was happening his brain was downloading all the info from three eyed Raven on how to control the visions.

I was really happy with this episode. It had a lot of major events take place that were over shadowed by the hodor scene.

[Diode]

Originally Posted by Useless

Anime getting mad lol wtf

Nothing on the show happens without grrm's approval. He's the one that told the writers and producers how hodor got his name.

And I don't think bran intentionally mind fucked hodor. He was as much a spectator as we were. I don't think he could've stopped it if he wanted to. And while that was happening his brain was downloading all the info from three eyed Raven on how to control the visions.

I was really happy with this episode. It had a lot of major events take place that were over shadowed by the hodor scene.

Pretty much this.

Oatey doesn't watch the after show. Hodor origin was all GRMM.

[The Dead Poet]

Originally Posted by Useless

Nothing on the show happens without grrm's approval.

this isn't true at all.

[Ghost1]

Let uh oh call me a nerd ever again

[uh-oh]

ONLY NERDS DON'T LIKE FANTASY BOOKS BRO

lmao fuck you

[Schadenfreude]

...nvmd.

[Split Eight]

ITT Anime_boners insinuates Branflakes isn't a major character