Kanye West's The Life of Pablo now exists.

[Certain]

I think there are plenty of reasons to not like his music now, and autotune is one. But I don't get how anyone familiar with his process can call him lazy or uninspired. It's far more valid to say he's focused on the wrong things and overly perfectionist to the point of tinkering.

[kannon]

Originally Posted by Certain

It's far more valid to say he's focused on the wrong things and overly perfectionist to the point of tinkering.

He's already taken the album down from Tidal as a purchase. It's only available to stream now. He says he needs another week "to fix Wolves."

He tinkers more than Ruxin.

[Certain]

Originally Posted by kannon

He's already taken the album down from Tidal as a purchase. It's only available to stream now. He says he needs another week "to fix Wolves."

He tinkers more than Ruxin.

("Wolves" might actually need some work.)

[uh-oh]

Originally Posted by Certain

I think there are plenty of reasons to not like his music now, and autotune is one. But I don't get how anyone familiar with his process can call him lazy or uninspired. It's far more valid to say he's focused on the wrong things and overly perfectionist to the point of tinkering.

Finger poking at synth horns with a simplistic 808 bassdrum, 808 snare and the note repeat hihats is lazy. The random vocal stabs and the keys are the most complex part of the beat you posted and its simpleton shit.

You can be a perfectionist with the mix. You can be a perfectionist with the arrangement. But its still nothing compared to his "dreams" beat he did for game.

I can calll it lazy and uninspired because im familiar with his process.

He used to be like a gourmet michelin chef or whatever. Cooking complex meals, now he makes a good cheeseburger and maybe serves it with some seasoned french fries. He can perfect the burger all he wants. Its still a burger.

And dont get it confused, im not saying its bad from a technical standpoint, its just not awe inducing. Im not intimidated by it. Kanye was someone who made me wanna quit making beats even as a hobbyist. Because i couldnt fathom being able to do what he did. But with beats like this i can wrap my head around it.

Not trying to babble on just trying to give my viewpoint on it.

[Certain]

Originally Posted by uh-oh

Finger poking at synth horns with a simplistic 808 bassdrum, 808 snare and the note repeat hihats is lazy. The random vocal stabs and the keys are the most complex part of the beat you posted and its simpleton shit.

You can be a perfectionist with the mix. You can be a perfectionist with the arrangement. But its still nothing compared to his "dreams" beat he did for game.

I can calll it lazy and uninspired because im familiar with his process.

He used to be like a gourmet michelin chef or whatever. Cooking complex meals, now he makes a good cheeseburger and maybe serves it with some seasoned french fries. He can perfect the burger all he wants. Its still a burger.

And dont get it confused, im not saying its bad from a technical standpoint, its just not awe inducing. Im not intimidated by it. Kanye was someone who made me wanna quit making beats even as a hobbyist. Because i couldnt fathom being able to do what he did. But with beats like this i can wrap my head around it.

Not trying to babble on just trying to give my viewpoint on it.

I don't think you are, if you think it's lazy and uninspired. If you've read the interviews of those who have worked with him, he's as obsessive and manic as ever. He's basically a crazy person. He'll call in five other producers just to have them add tiny little touches that we can barely even notice.

You're walking into a Picasso exhibit and wondering if a second-grader painted these things. I get that it's not for you, and honestly it's not supposed to be for everyone. There's nothing wrong with not like his work. But it's weird to me that an aspiring producer just thinks he got outright lazy.

To use your analogy, it's like he used to be the top chef at the best steakhouse in the world and now is doing bizarre fusion tapas that he makes up. Most people would pick the best steakhouse in the world.