hey biggie fans.... - Page 6

Inno · 01-06-2016, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Certain

KRS-One's style was outdated by the time his second album dropped.

So rakim was outdated as well?
Did you not state you prefer biggie because of his technical prowess lyrical ability over pac?

Which is the general opinion as to why biggie with 2 albums is the greatest, because he was better lyrically than anyone out?

Even more lyrical than rakim?

Is lyricism only judged based on technical presentation? Passion and heart story telling and weaving plots doesn't factor in? Something pac did 10 times better than biggie.

Where u at son

Diode · 01-06-2016, 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Innovator

So rakim was outdated as well?
Did you not state you prefer biggie because of his technical prowess lyrical ability over pac?

Which is the general opinion as to why biggie with 2 albums is the greatest, because he was better lyrically than anyone out?

Even more lyrical than rakim?

Is lyricism only judged based on technical presentation? Passion and heart story telling and weaving plots doesn't factor in? Something pac did 10 times better than biggie.

Where u at son

lol @ pac did 10 times better than biggie

LOL

LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

DMX is a better storyteller than pac

there. i said it. it's been said.

Certain · 01-06-2016, 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Innovator

So rakim was outdated as well?
Did you not state you prefer biggie because of his technical prowess lyrical ability over pac?

Which is the general opinion as to why biggie with 2 albums is the greatest, because he was better lyrically than anyone out?

Even more lyrical than rakim?

Is lyricism only judged based on technical presentation? Passion and heart story telling and weaving plots doesn't factor in? Something pac did 10 times better than biggie.

Where u at son

1. I never said Biggie was the greatest. And I never would.

2. Rakim is the reason KRS-One's style was outdated. Rakim was lyricism distilled to its bare bones. He struggled when he tried to be more than that, specifically as an angry, overtly violent, weirdly military-based mess of internal rhymes on "Casualties of War" and some other songs on Don't Sweat the Technique.

3. Passion and heart literally are not lyricism.

4. 2Pac's stories were basic and driven entirely by emotion. Biggie told stories better than 2Pac, even if 2Pac might have told better stories. And 2Pac did not tell better stories than Biggie.

Inno · 01-06-2016, 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Certain

1. I never said Biggie was the greatest. And I never would.

2. Rakim is the reason KRS-One's style was outdated. Rakim was lyricism distilled to its bare bones. He struggled when he tried to be more than that, specifically as an angry, overtly violent, weirdly military-based mess of internal rhymes on "Casualties of War" and some other songs on Don't Sweat the Technique.

3. Passion and heart literally are not lyricism.

4. 2Pac's stories were basic and driven entirely by emotion. Biggie told stories better than 2Pac, even if 2Pac might have told better stories. And 2Pac did not tell better stories than Biggie.

This better though

uh-oh · 01-06-2016, 06:54 AM

Easily as far as bars/lyricism

Biggie was better at making dope songs tho. And pac was better than him. Biggies best songs other than going back to cali were plagiarized pretty puffy beats like juicy

Not that pacs shit was better produced, he was just better at making alot of dope shit.

anime_boners · 01-06-2016, 11:26 AM

edit: cant remember the song. will be back

Inno · 01-06-2016, 11:52 AM

Srsly?

You talking out yo ass son dmx lol

Diode · 01-06-2016, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Innovator

Srsly?

You talking out yo ass son dmx lol

Inno · 01-06-2016, 12:02 PM

Lol joe Budden story better than that

veritas · 01-06-2016, 12:17 PM

DMX was pretty epic.

uh-oh · 01-06-2016, 12:20 PM

Dmx is an east coast pac with a shittier catalog and shittier beats

SWIZZY

that said i fuck with dmx

Pac>

Greed · 01-06-2016, 12:26 PM

And then there was x low key got me into wtiting.

Witty · 01-06-2016, 01:01 PM

I think Rakim was better than all of them tbh.

~RustyGunZ~ · 01-06-2016, 01:45 PM

Big l was better than both tho

Diode · 01-06-2016, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Knucklehead

Big l was better than both tho

lyrically, yes, big L repped ny the hardest in that era

Diode · 01-06-2016, 01:45 PM

lol no

not ever

Certain · 01-06-2016, 02:14 PM

Big L died before he could get good beats consistently. It's a fucking shame.

"Brenda's Got a Baby" is fine. It's not even close to as complex or interesting or emotional as, say, Nas' "Undying Love" or Jay Z's "Meet the Parents." But it's fine. 2Pac's best storytelling track is "I Ain't Mad At Cha."

Ghost1 · 01-06-2016, 02:20 PM

Big l got even less material then biggie tho lol

I mean he was hot....but cmon

Are we now to the stage of the thread where we just make it known that we know of other greats not in discussion?

~RustyGunZ~ · 01-06-2016, 02:24 PM

Vanilla ice tho

oats · 01-06-2016, 02:46 PM

AYO BIG PUN >>>>>>> YOU HEAR THAT SHIT ABOUT THE MIDDLEMEN OF GIGGLY JIZZILY?! PUN THE GOAT IN AND OUT OF LITTLE ITALY.

01-06-2016, 06:54 AM	#5
uh-oh DA GOD Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Canton Ohio Posts: 12,362 Battle Record: 1-0 Champed - Beat Battle II - Beat Battle V - Beat Bags Rep Power: 84181420	Easily as far as bars/lyricism Biggie was better at making dope songs tho. And pac was better than him. Biggies best songs other than going back to cali were plagiarized pretty puffy beats like juicy Not that pacs shit was better produced, he was just better at making alot of dope shit. __________________ EVERYBODY I KNOW GOT WEED OR GOT POWDER BUT I AINT GOT EITHER. GOT ALOT OF DEMONS

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anime_boners Bisky-chama <3 Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 3,082 Battle Record: 0-1 Rep Power: 85899389	edit: cant remember the song. will be back __________________ anime boners - pronounced with a long I and a silent e. jsyk

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uh-oh DA GOD Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Canton Ohio Posts: 12,362 Battle Record: 1-0 Champed - Beat Battle II - Beat Battle V - Beat Bags Rep Power: 84181420	Dmx is an east coast pac with a shittier catalog and shittier beats SWIZZY that said i fuck with dmx Pac> __________________ EVERYBODY I KNOW GOT WEED OR GOT POWDER BUT I AINT GOT EITHER. GOT ALOT OF DEMONS

01-06-2016, 01:01 PM	#13
Witty Lime Life Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 16,978 Battle Record: 30-41 Accomplishments - Only Slightly Retarded Champed - Lyric Olympics - Summer Classic Rep Power: 85235118	I think Rakim was better than all of them tbh. __________________ He listens to voices inside of his mind Explicit and poisonous violent crime.

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Diode PR's Finest Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 14,165 Battle Record: 12-7 Rep Power: 85899410	lol no not ever __________________

01-06-2016, 11:52 AM	#7
Inno Ad mini tator Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 10,025 Battle Record: 26-54 Champed - Lime Green Poetry Association - Black August - 1-2 Punch League Rep Power: 85899403	Srsly? You talking out yo ass son dmx lol

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Inno Ad mini tator Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 10,025 Battle Record: 26-54 Champed - Lime Green Poetry Association - Black August - 1-2 Punch League Rep Power: 85899403	Lol joe Budden story better than that

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Greed Raw Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 1,721 Battle Record: 21-40 Rep Power: 29975687	And then there was x low key got me into wtiting.

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01-06-2016, 02:14 PM	#17
Certain Mad fucking dangerous. Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 12,066 Battle Record: 40-19 Champed - AOWL Season 3 - Art of Writing League (2x) Rep Power: 85899406	Big L died before he could get good beats consistently. It's a fucking shame. "Brenda's Got a Baby" is fine. It's not even close to as complex or interesting or emotional as, say, Nas' "Undying Love" or Jay Z's "Meet the Parents." But it's fine. 2Pac's best storytelling track is "I Ain't Mad At Cha." __________________ I'm just swinging swords strictly based on keyboards, unbalanced like elephants and ants on seesaws.

01-06-2016, 02:24 PM	#19
~RustyGunZ~ (ง'̀-'́)ง Join Date: Nov 2015 Posts: 15,844 Battle Record: 52-28 Accomplishments -50+ wins Champed -Summer Classic VIII -Netcees Battle League -BA Picture -BA TagTeam -Fight Night Cypher I -Fight Night XXXV -Key Grand Prix 2018 1/2 Rep Power: 85899406	Vanilla ice tho

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oats Steel Cut Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 5,084 Battle Record: 19-10 Accomplishments - OM HOF (2x) Champed - Fight Night LXXXIV - Art of Writing League Rep Power: 79005428	AYO BIG PUN >>>>>>> YOU HEAR THAT SHIT ABOUT THE MIDDLEMEN OF GIGGLY JIZZILY?! PUN THE GOAT IN AND OUT OF LITTLE ITALY. __________________ You should be water

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