punches against you that need to be retired

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Originally Posted by Scrooge Kuklinski

If it's a nameplay, you can't flip it; it's played

Wordplay in general can be tweaked, but it's 2015

Most of it's been done to death

this makes no sense. np is just wp that uses someones name. if you can flip one you can flip the other.

its not played to me unless you use the same angle along with wp but there are tons of diff ways to flip any particular one.