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Old 08-19-2015, 10:21 PM   #1
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if i remember correctly bush came into office with a surplus from clinton.

what happened to that money?

we gave tax cuts to the wealthiest americans which created a shortfall in government revenue.

we spent it on a multi-theatre open ended terrorist hunting war that further destabilized the region, formented even greater anti-American sentiment.

we deregulated wall street and home ownership, then oversaw the greatest man made economic catastrophe since the great depression.

and you don't even want to consider adjustments to tax policy?

what about just simplifying the tax code and closing loopholes.

also you don't think that having collegiate education would have an impact on the economy? people with degrees make more money. people with more money create more tax revenue. tax revenue pays for the education. this is a no brainer idea. free education makes things better for literally everyone.
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Old 08-19-2015, 10:31 PM   #2
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if i remember correctly bush came into office with a surplus from clinton.

what happened to that money?

we gave tax cuts to the wealthiest americans which created a shortfall in government revenue.

we spent it on a multi-theatre open ended terrorist hunting war that further destabilized the region, formented even greater anti-American sentiment.

we deregulated wall street and home ownership, then oversaw the greatest man made economic catastrophe since the great depression.

and you don't even want to consider adjustments to tax policy?

what about just simplifying the tax code and closing loopholes.

also you don't think that having collegiate education would have an impact on the economy? people with degrees make more money. people with more money create more tax revenue. tax revenue pays for the education. this is a no brainer idea. free education makes things better for literally everyone.
uhoh honestly believe in keynesian economics and job creators.

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Old 08-20-2015, 06:33 AM   #3
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if i remember correctly bush came into office with a surplus from clinton.

what happened to that money?

we gave tax cuts to the wealthiest americans which created a shortfall in government revenue.

we spent it on a multi-theatre open ended terrorist hunting war that further destabilized the region, formented even greater anti-American sentiment
I was wit everything else you said before that's why I didn't respond to it
This part is a little slanted though to be fair...
Clinton repealed Glass Steagall, loosened mortgage requirements, among other things
So it wasn't just Bush policies that ended up fucking us
That said, young George was the worst president I seen uh-oh talkin out his ass
Everything went to shit, nothing was transparent then... economic collapse, 9/11, lost oil wars

@uh-oh you pretty upfront wit what you don't know at all vs what you think...
who you likin for the next president though
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Old 08-20-2015, 06:44 AM   #4
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who you likin for the next president though
no one. i gotta look into rand paul and see if he's like his pops, but i doubt it, since i've heard no one talk about him at all. hillary clinton is the worst of all time. bernie sanders is a weak old man. trump is an idiot. i know nothing about jeb except he thinks his pops is a great dude. ted cruz is creepy looking.

im not really familiar with any other candidates. don't know what rubio's about. don't know what the other woman/women are about. i'm guessing womanly shit.

whoever is for less government, and doesn't have any plans to do anything that is gonna cost the taxpayers more. maybe pretend that the states have the rights they were supposedly granted, and keep the fed out of state wide politics. shit like that
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Old 08-20-2015, 06:07 PM   #5
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I was wit everything else you said before that's why I didn't respond to it
This part is a little slanted though to be fair...
Clinton repealed Glass Steagall, loosened mortgage requirements, among other things
So it wasn't just Bush policies that ended up fucking us
That said, young George was the worst president I seen uh-oh talkin out his ass
Everything went to shit, nothing was transparent then... economic collapse, 9/11, lost oil wars
@Hush. appreciate the props. i used to be a discussion head on NC1 but im usually too busy for this isht these days.

@Junto. respect. yeah i abbreviated the picture slightly, there is a lot of stuff that clinton did to set the stage, but you can attribute most of the decisions that had the biggest impact on the outcome to bush II. i just feel like its irresponsible to paint obama as such a horrible president when that is more or less completely opposite the facts.

i kinda feel like you can trace back problems to any previous president if you try hard enough tho. a lot of the bush ii situations came from bush i. and they were both trying to continue what reagan started in the 80s. and clinton was trying to recover a lot of the ground dems lost after carter.
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