nfl draft

[PancakeBrah]

Originally Posted by uh-oh

bradford is better than mariota winston and every qb on the browns roster

if theyre gonna throw away 2 1st rd picks they should do it for bradford not one of the rooks

This is the dumbest thing you've said.

I'm happy with Kevin White. Very, actually. We're going to be a last place team no matter what. Cut Cutler next offseason, draft QB in the first round, draft nothing but defense in rounds 2-7 this year, move towards something. White > Cooper for a lot of scouts. It was horrible to see Leonard Williams go one pick before us (to a team where d-line is their biggest strength already) because he's the best fit for our needs, in addition to being the best player in the draft supposedly. But not mad at all at the Bears' pick.

[uh-oh]

Originally Posted by Dancake

This is the dumbest thing you've said.

I'm happy with Kevin White. Very, actually. We're going to be a last place team no matter what. Cut Cutler next offseason, draft QB in the first round, draft nothing but defense in rounds 2-7 this year, move towards something. White > Cooper for a lot of scouts. It was horrible to see Leonard Williams go one pick before us (to a team where d-line is their biggest strength already) because he's the best fit for our needs, in addition to being the best player in the draft supposedly. But not mad at all at the Bears' pick.

you think mccown, mariota or winston is better than bradford?

[PancakeBrah]

Originally Posted by uh-oh

you think mccown, mariota or winston is better than bradford?

McCown? No.

I don't know what Mariota or Winston will be in the NFL. I kind of buy the hype with Winston, and tend to think Mariota will be a bust. But they have potential. Bradford is an injury-prone quarterback who's below average when on the field. His downfield throwing numbers are some of the worst in the league. There's an article about it I could dig up. The advanced stats hate him. He doesn't pass the eye test; I've never watched Sam Bradford play football and thought he was a difference maker at all. His absolute ceiling is an average quarterback (although in Chip Kelly's system I could see him having some good years) whereas you can at least envision Winston or Mariota being franchise level quarterbacks if you're sipping the Kool-Aid. We know what Bradford is. I'd much rather have Winston, and would probably take Mariota over him too.

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Originally Posted by Dancake

McCown? No.

I don't know what Mariota or Winston will be in the NFL. I kind of buy the hype with Winston, and tend to think Mariota will be a bust. But they have potential. Bradford is an injury-prone quarterback who's below average when on the field. His downfield throwing numbers are some of the worst in the league. There's an article about it I could dig up. The advanced stats hate him. He doesn't pass the eye test; I've never watched Sam Bradford play football and thought he was a difference maker at all. His absolute ceiling is an average quarterback (although in Chip Kelly's system I could see him having some good years) whereas you can at least envision Winston or Mariota being franchise level quarterbacks if you're sipping the Kool-Aid. We know what Bradford is. I'd much rather have Winston, and would probably take Mariota over him too.

thats where we differ

i'm not throwing away two picks on hype

you know what your getting with bradford, and with their run game and defense you just need him converting on 3rd and medium.

but none of it matters now, the browns are showing signs of having a brain

[PancakeBrah]

Originally Posted by uh-oh

thats where we differ

i'm not throwing away two picks on hype

you know what your getting with bradford, and with their run game and defense you just need him converting on 3rd and medium.

but none of it matters now, the browns are showing signs of having a brain

Hype was the wrong word.

There's a chance Winston or Mariota could be franchise QB's. Bradford will never be a franchise QB. Any GM in the league, including Ozzie Newsome, would take Winston or Mariota over Bradford in a hypothetical NFL all-player draft, it's just a fact. You're doing your whole hipster opinion thing right now and I'm falling for it.

Saying you prefer Bradford because he's in an offense where he just needs to convert third and medium is like saying a Pinto is a better car than a Lambourghini because you only drive once a month. It's an asinine argument.

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Originally Posted by Dancake

Hype was the wrong word.

There's a chance Winston or Mariota could be franchise QB's. Bradford will never be a franchise QB. Any GM in the league, including Ozzie Newsome, would take Winston or Mariota over Bradford in a hypothetical NFL all-player draft, it's just a fact. You're doing your whole hipster opinion thing right now and I'm falling for it.

Saying you prefer Bradford because he's in an offense where he just needs to convert third and medium is like saying a Pinto is a better car than a Lambourghini because you only drive once a month. It's an asinine argument.

i disagree with mariota or winston being franchise guys

i think bradford is good enough. i don't like winston or mariota. they could prove me wrong. cam newton is.

but he's the only one who's proven me wrong. other than rg3 in his rookie season lol

but to be fair i haven't backed any qb's other than luck, and i was saying he'd be an average qb

and he's above average. so their is that

i'm also racist against black qb's if im being honest. i think winston is better than mariota tho if thats any consolation