hey veritas

[veritas]

Bro....that is the exact reason that they wuld not "create him"

They did not want his message be in spread. They did not want him to be the messiah.

Do I really have to spell this out for you?

THEY NEVER EVEN TRIED TO PRODUCE A BODY AFTER HE DIED AND DISSAPEARED OUT OF THE TOMB BRO.

Think this through. Your premise is flawed. Jesus was who he said he was and this threatened their power.

Do you really not see?

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Originally Posted by Veritas the invincible

Bro....that is the exact reason that they wuld not "create him"

They did not want his message be in spread. They did not want him to be the messiah.

Do I really have to spell this out for you?

THEY NEVER EVEN TRIED TO PRODUCE A BODY AFTER HE DIED AND DISSAPEARED OUT OF THE TOMB BRO.

Think this through. Your premise is flawed. Jesus was who he said he was and this threatened their power.

Do you really not see?

you are failing to understand my premise brother.

him proclaiming himself the son of god didn't get him killed, it was him trying to overthrow the government. jesus was a man made creation.

i am saying that the inspiration for creating jesus, comes from the actual jews who rebelled and tried to overthrow the occupation and reclaim judea from foreign occupancy basically.

by proclaiming jesus as the son of god, and attributing qualities to him stolen from other religions, it was easier to pass on to the simple minds of the time.

him dying for their sins, was in reality him dying for their freedom.

maybe my point isn't coming across?

i hear what you are saying 100 percent tho. you are talking about the same jews i am when i am referencing those who were put in power by the romans.

all the kings put in power under roman rule were also "high priests of judea" or whatever.

look at jesus freaking out at the money changers in the temples and shit. pretty much every single story jesus is involved in can easily be interpreted as a man sick of foreign occupation, and trying to help those burdened by it.

they like every other culture levied grain and food as well as coin, so when jesus comes to town and makes a feast out of a fish and a loaf of bread he is feeding those.

look at rebel leaders throughout history, they rise to power by helping those down and out in a society, and the fat cats up top get pissed because it makes them look bad etc.

do you follow the logic i am presenting.