hey veritas

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Originally Posted by Veritas the invincible

Well....why would the jews *create* someone who literally told them they were busted and wrong?

fkn peen head why wuld god create bald faggot? moustachio hates bald peeners.

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Originally Posted by Bags

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Originally Posted by Knucklehead

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[veritas]

Lot of unnecessary butt pain itt.

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Originally Posted by Veritas the invincible

Well....why would the jews *create* someone who literally told them they were busted and wrong?

elaborate.

[veritas]

that the whole premise of your argument is busted. And I have already explained this to you like two years ago Jim.

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explain how jesus told the jews they were wrong and busted

[veritas]

When I say the jews I mean the Jewish politicians and religious leaders. Do I really need to elaborate upon this sir?

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Veritas I appreciate you.

You have helped The Fox's self esteem.

Thank you.

[veritas]

Yw.

I wish you luck in defeating bags. It really is easy. Goof luck.

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Originally Posted by Veritas the invincible

When I say the jews I mean the Jewish politicians and religious leaders. Do I really need to elaborate upon this sir?

by jewish politicians and religious leaders you understand you are referring to the people the romans put in power correct?

meaning jesus had differing views from those put in place by the foreign occupation?

interesting.

[veritas]

Bro....that is the exact reason that they wuld not "create him"

They did not want his message be in spread. They did not want him to be the messiah.

Do I really have to spell this out for you?

THEY NEVER EVEN TRIED TO PRODUCE A BODY AFTER HE DIED AND DISSAPEARED OUT OF THE TOMB BRO.

Think this through. Your premise is flawed. Jesus was who he said he was and this threatened their power.

Do you really not see?

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Originally Posted by Veritas the invincible

Bro....that is the exact reason that they wuld not "create him"

They did not want his message be in spread. They did not want him to be the messiah.

Do I really have to spell this out for you?

THEY NEVER EVEN TRIED TO PRODUCE A BODY AFTER HE DIED AND DISSAPEARED OUT OF THE TOMB BRO.

Think this through. Your premise is flawed. Jesus was who he said he was and this threatened their power.

Do you really not see?

you are failing to understand my premise brother.

him proclaiming himself the son of god didn't get him killed, it was him trying to overthrow the government. jesus was a man made creation.

i am saying that the inspiration for creating jesus, comes from the actual jews who rebelled and tried to overthrow the occupation and reclaim judea from foreign occupancy basically.

by proclaiming jesus as the son of god, and attributing qualities to him stolen from other religions, it was easier to pass on to the simple minds of the time.

him dying for their sins, was in reality him dying for their freedom.

maybe my point isn't coming across?

i hear what you are saying 100 percent tho. you are talking about the same jews i am when i am referencing those who were put in power by the romans.

all the kings put in power under roman rule were also "high priests of judea" or whatever.

look at jesus freaking out at the money changers in the temples and shit. pretty much every single story jesus is involved in can easily be interpreted as a man sick of foreign occupation, and trying to help those burdened by it.

they like every other culture levied grain and food as well as coin, so when jesus comes to town and makes a feast out of a fish and a loaf of bread he is feeding those.

look at rebel leaders throughout history, they rise to power by helping those down and out in a society, and the fat cats up top get pissed because it makes them look bad etc.

do you follow the logic i am presenting.

[veritas]

Naw bro...he didn't care about overthrowing the government he said his kingdom wasn't of this world and if it was his angels would come and fight.

You don't get it bro. I understand you perfectly. You just don't understand and you refuse to.

Why do you kick against the pricks?

[veritas]

I mean why don't you actually study the bible bro....and then come to some new conclusions fair?

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he didn't say anything because he didn't EXIST

he has no place in any history from the time he allegedly existed.

he was a myth created by people who couldnt understand why their god had foresaken them. they needed a figure to rally behind and they created it. this figure was created using events which occurred in their world to people on their side. they put those atrocitiies onto that figure, and borrowed other magic and buffoonery from other religious heroes and attributed that to him as well

the bible is historical fiction.

the writings on jesus are the equivalent to me right now, sitting down and writing about abraham lincoln. i am 150+ years removed. he couldnt tell a lie and chopped down a cherry tree and was a greco roman wrestler. or was that george washington? who knows. they all had lice and terrible teeth. but me not knowing anything about him i'm going to write tales about his life and jazz it up. as a matter of fact i'm not going to write about lincoln at all. just a new guy who didnt exist, but is more exciting, set in lincolns world. and i'm going to also make him a wizard because i eat hallucinigenic drugs and drink a mixture of wine vinegar and water because the water is too tepid to drink.

thats the bible in essence.

[veritas]

So why do you ask me questions if you have already made up your mind?

Answer this wisely and we shall proceed

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to see if you can present anything to sway me off my position. im trying to discuss and lightly debate the topics at hand expecting you to drop your knowledge of these things in like i am dropping mine. when you say study the bible its like me saying go study livy. instead of that i just relay the information from livy herodotus dio cassius josephus and countless other historians instead of telling you HEY GO READ A BUNCH OF BORING SHIT

[veritas]

Naw bro. You are the one searching.....even if you do Want to admit it.

I offer you sound reasoning which refutes your words yet you dire gard it because *Jesus ain't real heyuck heyuck*



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