uh-oh

[uh-oh]

yea you can download/sample whatever. you don't need to have it in your mind, like oh shit ima sample isaac hayes or al green etc. its good to go through there stuff tho, anyone you can think of, they all have good shit, its been sampled alot before, but for learning purposes its good to trek through them

but really its called diggin because you are searching for gold. you want to get stuff you don't know anything about as well, you want to get stuff you don't think ANYONE knows about. now with the internet if its on here chances are someones touched it at least once. but you never know, everyone hears songs different

think about how YOU want to flip it.

but for now just look for some 1 bar chops, when you can string some patterns together, make some cool loops, on your own, out of something you yourself found

then i can help you understand more intricate chops, so you can do more with the sample, making your own melodies from it and all that, and still keeping it crisp

and then when you understand how to make basically every timestretchable chop and can use them all when listening to a sample

i can get into more stab type sampling, like single sounds. if you try and do that now it only muddies the waters of the clean chops you can time stretch

like think of it this way

i'm giving you a puzzle with big somewhat easy to solve pieces, once you can do these puzzles enough where its not a problem, then you'll graduate to more complex puzzles with smaller pieces, and then you will graduate to the smallest most complex pieces

and then you'll be ready to create your own puzzles. meaning taking single sounds and layering them

but the best beats incorporate all of the above

you might hear a beat that is a 4 bar loop of a sample and think, damn that is pretty easy. but the drums could be chopped in 1/2 beats or even 1/4 beats and rearranged to make a whole new pattern, there might be string stabs over top etc.

but some of the best beats are simple loops

[uh-oh]

i talk to much

im giving you to much to take in, i have to much alcohol in my system and focusing on my spelling is taking away from my ability to focus on being coherent.

basically, sample anything that sounds dope and you can make work

if it don't work move on to the next one

if you get hung up post a sample you are messing with and an example of what you were thinking of doing or whatever

and i can try and break it down

its the weekend too, on weekdays im too tired after work to really mess with anything but i can do stuff on the weekends

[Malachi]

Originally Posted by uh-oh

i talk to much

im giving you to much to take in, i have to much alcohol in my system and focusing on my spelling is taking away from my ability to focus on being coherent.

basically, sample anything that sounds dope and you can make work

if it don't work move on to the next one

if you get hung up post a sample you are messing with and an example of what you were thinking of doing or whatever

and i can try and break it down

its the weekend too, on weekdays im too tired after work to really mess with anything but i can do stuff on the weekends

word man.

ima just listen to the albums, see what id thinkd be cool

[Malachi]

just wanna get atleast one done soonn

[Malachi]

@uh-oh

how do i chop shit wit drums in it already

i mean how much can i do to shit wit drums on it already

im askin cause ive been listenin to these albums(they kinda go hord)

but every sec theres a drum hit and i cant find a solo or nun

edit: smh lol this track summer breeze i instantly rememberd a song that sampled it and ill prolly work on that. cause thats one i heard wit a part wit no drums

summer breezes
the highway of my life

[uh-oh]

sampling stuff with drums is easier, you can count stuff out much easier, know what i mean, just count your head nods

kick, snare, kick, snare. bam

loop it up, you will want to have your drums play overtop the drums in the sample, to sort of mask them

[Malachi]

@uh-oh

https://soundcloud.com/prophetmt/summa-breeze

listen to it all 1 mins of it lol

what do u think

I think the guitar shoulda been left out but i wanted to see if i could use it tho, the guitar part is 2 diff patterns
i had wanted to see if i could add like a lil humm from the singer but i couldnt find a timing right for a good loop

u think i could do more to it?

but word ima try to chop shit wit drums for the next one.
and yoo i need to memorize them drum breaks cause im doin the same basic ones lol

[uh-oh]

dope, your already getting the structure and shit, how to arrange them, you set up a nice pattern with the piano chops, the guitar parts could be left out, but they work,

the main thing im getting from this is the drums, they work but remember less is more alot of the time. you like alot of people starting out, do to much. it works, but it feels like your drumming just to do it, rather than drumming to compliment the groove your creating.

its not bad and not terribly overdone tho

also you can incorporate other drum sounds, i'll make my next little tutorial on that

but yea man i'm impressed, you are catching on quick, just keep doing what you are doing

[uh-oh]

what i mean by incorporating other sounds, alot of times with a basic kick/snare/hihat pattern its easy to overdo it with them, whether its the kick/snare or whatever. if you dont overdo it, it might sound empty.

to compensate and keep the groove simple, but still busy enough to not feel empty, you can use other sounds, like percussion type instruments. cymbals, congas/bongos, toms, tamborines etc

i'll go into more on how to use those types of drums this weekend or sometime this week if im not a lazy bum after work

[Malachi]

Originally Posted by uh-oh

what i mean by incorporating other sounds, alot of times with a basic kick/snare/hihat pattern its easy to overdo it with them, whether its the kick/snare or whatever. if you dont overdo it, it might sound empty.

to compensate and keep the groove simple, but still busy enough to not feel empty, you can use other sounds, like percussion type instruments. cymbals, congas/bongos, toms, tamborines etc

i'll go into more on how to use those types of drums this weekend or sometime this week if im not a lazy bum after work

Wordd @ doin to much wit drumss, i doesnt be sure where to put and usually go wit a drum break

So if i use different stuff instead of just a kick n snare , it wont be able to over do it?

thanks man

Ima try to look for something to work on from the Issac Hayes shit

[uh-oh]

you can always overdo it, its just easiest to overdo it with the kick and the snare since they are the main aspects of drums

[Malachi]

Originally Posted by uh-oh

you can always overdo it, its just easiest to overdo it with the kick and the snare since they are the main aspects of drums

Word
but yo
I always have this feelin like there should b emore to it
idk

but im startin sum new wit this Isaac Hayes - GOin in circles

[Malachi]

wtf ok so this never happened before but im usin edison and when im tryna highlight a part its jumpin from like a segment to a segment instead of a free thing

edit: fixed it
@uh-oh, i just wanna know for later.

When people got like a lil singin in they beat , do they have to get like a acapella or they just match it like everything else
and vice versa wat if a nice as part is there but someone on top of it and u dont want em, im guessin just find the instruemntal version?

[uh-oh]

all of the above, but 99 percent of the time its in a chop over music/drums

you just gotta chop and fit it in

your still doing 1 bar chops and stuff, i'll go into it more when you get to the smaller chops

[Malachi]

Originally Posted by uh-oh

all of the above, but 99 percent of the time its in a chop over music/drums

you just gotta chop and fit it in

your still doing 1 bar chops and stuff, i'll go into it more when you get to the smaller chops

I know i chopped this shit right mann. every time the drums hit i counted 1 beat. but this soundin sped tf up on a 75 tempo

ill work on it and post it before i think of countin faster in case i really didnt coutn wrong i swear i didnt tho man

cause this how the beat kinda went
ever drum thing i heard i did a count
the tsk is the hi hat ig in the song


in the beginnin it was like count tsk tsk count tsk tsk count tsk tsk count then i put a marker

if i count by the kcik, snare , kick , snare

thats right , right?

should hi-hats always be every other 2

[uh-oh]

you counted right, but make sure you do it

count, tsk, tsk, count, tsk, tsk, count, tsk, tsk, count, tsk, tsk

you want the hihats after too so it loops around right, so your chop ends right before the next "count"

but thats not the problem you ran into i don't think, the problem is the song you are chopping isnt in 4/4, i know exactly what you are talking about tho you will run across those alot in sampling.

you either have to want it sped up, or you have to chop different, and its very hard, i suck at it myself and it doesnt work sometimes

basically a 4/4 pattern is more like

count, tsk, count, tsk, count, tsk, count, tsk,

with just the one main hihat inbetween kicks and snares, when you run into slower stuff, with two counts, its actually a completely different structure, im not sure what it is exactly, i aint musically trained classically, like i don't know if its 3/4 or 4/3, but it isnt 4/4 lol

but i got beats chopping those kinds of things its some of the more advanced stuff i do tho

but i can probably make a beat vid about it.

the main thing is when you do drums, snares will be in there same place if you count and chop right, but you will never match the hihats with the boxes/steps in the stepsequencer. alot of the time the kicks are in time with the hihats too

to place them right you will have to use the piano roll

i'll make a vid doing just that.

if you want upload the song you are trying to sample, tomorrow or saturday i will make a quick vid showing you how to place drums and a couple ways to chop those types of samples

[Malachi]

Originally Posted by uh-oh

you counted right, but make sure you do it

count, tsk, tsk, count, tsk, tsk, count, tsk, tsk, count, tsk, tsk

you want the hihats after too so it loops around right, so your chop ends right before the next "count"

but thats not the problem you ran into i don't think, the problem is the song you are chopping isnt in 4/4, i know exactly what you are talking about tho you will run across those alot in sampling.

you either have to want it sped up, or you have to chop different, and its very hard, i suck at it myself and it doesnt work sometimes

basically a 4/4 pattern is more like

count, tsk, count, tsk, count, tsk, count, tsk,

with just the one main hihat inbetween kicks and snares, when you run into slower stuff, with two counts, its actually a completely different structure, im not sure what it is exactly, i aint musically trained classically, like i don't know if its 3/4 or 4/3, but it isnt 4/4 lol

but i got beats chopping those kinds of things its some of the more advanced stuff i do tho

but i can probably make a beat vid about it.

the main thing is when you do drums, snares will be in there same place if you count and chop right, but you will never match the hihats with the boxes/steps in the stepsequencer. alot of the time the kicks are in time with the hihats too

to place them right you will have to use the piano roll

i'll make a vid doing just that.

if you want upload the song you are trying to sample, tomorrow or saturday i will make a quick vid showing you how to place drums and a couple ways to chop those types of samples

im not musically inclined either so im not sure i got half of what u said
but okay ill see if i can put up sum tommorow on soundcloud n shit

word i was gon ask u bout the piano roll? what is that actually for . is it like what drum machines where u can hit at the exact time u want manually and u can controll the pitch too right?

okok word i see yea vid would be cool

so you sayin that i can never match the hi-hats on the sample wit the step sequencer? but can find it on the snare ok ok

but am i spose to match the snare and kick on the sample wit my own snare and kick i found?

[Malachi]

@uh-oh

here

https://soundcloud.com/prophetmt/cipher

the first two chops sound sped up but the other parts not so much

idk i just threw the drums so id have sumtin to show but even then i dont think they complimentin the sample or not. i was thinkin findin a drum break but thought thatd be too much.

icant imagine shit i made bein rapped on lol

[Certain]

I like the sample, but you need harder drums and a deeper bass.

[Greed]

When in doubt, add heavy bass