New back pic ITT (non lifters need not enter)

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Honestly though, I've competed athletically at a level higher than most people here, I'd think at least, don't know for sure. And while those things help in active competition, hardly anyone here actively competes (I know you're an exception, diode - do you just train or do you also compete?). If anything, you can certainly attest to the muscle bodies who come in after a big UFC event who get smashed because their muscles aren't functional outside of the weight room.

Big muscles takes a lot of discipline and hard work, which I respect. I just don't get it for casual life. I'd rather be lean and strong than big and bulky.