Eminem is a genius ...

[Ghost1]

NOBODY TALKS DOWN ON EMINEM ON FRANKS WATCH

[Frank Metts]

Originally Posted by El Pancake

Eminem made three good to great albums and has been a homeless man's version of himself since. You're bandying the 'genius' tag about much too carelessly and I would sit down and consider showing some restraint if I were in your shoes.

Thank you.

How many great albums have you made ?

That's what I thought


Don't you have some hot oils to burn and fionna Apple to listen too

[PancakeBrah]

Did you really just use the 'what music have you made?' argument in a debate?

One second I need to check my calendar

[PancakeBrah]

Back.

Holy fuck it IS 2014 and you did that.

Mind=blown.

[Frank Metts]

This isn't an arguement or debate


No one even gives his music a chance... No one can tell me why rap god is genius because of the length of the song and how that ties info mmlp 1 or why the parking lot skit is before rhyme or reason and how that ties a trilogy of skits together as it just seems like a weird out of place skit

His music is soo good esp the last two albums... People don't listen they prejudge, skim and then argue because earl sweatshirt made a decent album and that's cooler to talk about 2014


But still pancake, get back to your bottle of jack and your list of ways you can try and beat your social anxiety

[uh-oh]

when everyone disagrees with you it should be a sign.

eminem hasnt been good for a long time. neither has anyone you seen me show interest in. if you think i listen to 2014 cam you are kidding yourself.

people listen to music they relate too. when i was a 13 year old poor white kid full of anger i loved eminem. then i got older and realized there were only a few good tracks. if you like modern eminem you just suck man

he is terrible. people skim through his music because it doesnt grab them. i tried giving this a try and posted about it online before

i don't know why getting everyone else to like eminem is so important to you. if you like him cool. you shouldnt care that i think your weird for it. the same way i dont care if you think im weird for liking dipset

you aint gonna convince anyone to like anything they don't. the same way i aint gonna convince you that im not a terrible producer. i could post screenshots and links to projects people paid to use my music for, i could post links of people just randomly uploading my music to youtube, links to people posting it on blogs, links to every thread where no one had anything bad to say. but to you i'm wack. im not gonna try and change your mind.

[Frank Metts]

I don't want everyone to like eminem

This topic just always startd a heated convo that lasts a little while

Daughter is sleeping and wife is on her way home

Mission accomplished

I still love eminem and I'm not sure how from start to finish mmlp 2 doesn't grab anyone in anyway, it's full of amazing songs and relatable songs to many people

I Mean if you don't like love game then IMO you don't like music

Headlights is Stan worthy and a song that may live on forever

The whole cd. + bonus tracks plus the call of duty track ft buckshot are all well above anything anyone had done in awhile

Recovery is personal to me but I still think it's very good music and very relatable to me at least

Then you have to go back to eminem show for his next great albums and then everything before that even though encore has some of my favorite tracks on it and relapse has a few good tracks on it

The first few people who posted were positive , you and pancake are the only fun people that want to disprove me

[oats]

Eminem is deserving of the title imo. I maintain that Relapse is in the good-to-great range. Recovery was plain but decent. MMLP2 was good. First three albums were phenomenal. Only album that's not really worth listening to is Encore, and even that had a handful of jewels on it.

wtf@Smilez and Southstar reference in here lol. What's Goin On was the shit in like middle school

[oats]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_wwEglFUb4

[Rawn MD]

the song was 'tell me' oats geeze

why couldnt u get it right.

smh, why do i rmbr these things.

[Frank Metts]

I love my odd references

[anime_boners]

jnco Jean wearing

one ear ring still wondering if it's pierced on the straight side having

+repped

[namix]

eminem has certainly done enough to be considered top 5-10 ---- whether you like him or not, if you do not think he should even be in that conversation, then what criteria are you using?

net sales? haha... clearly he's in the convo.

lyricism? haha... clearly he's in the convo (although, i'd actually go more like Rakim-type dudes if we went this route)

flow/scheme/etc...? heh... i mean seriously... dude is in the conversation whether you like him or not.

EM is dope. Even his name at the time he created it gave everyone the concept of playing with the alphabet an rearranging letters and shit to come up with their own PEN name. Co'mon. Whether half of you admit it or not, he's influenced the majority.

EMINEM M & M Marshal Matters or w/e his name is.

[Frank Metts]

Originally Posted by namix

eminem has certainly done enough to be considered top 5-10 ---- whether you like him or not, if you do not think he should even be in that conversation, then what criteria are you using?

net sales? haha... clearly he's in the convo.

lyricism? haha... clearly he's in the convo (although, i'd actually go more like Rakim-type dudes if we went this route)

flow/scheme/etc...? heh... i mean seriously... dude is in the conversation whether you like him or not.

Fuck top five, bitch, I'm top four
And that includes Biggie and Pac, whore
And I got an Evil Twin
So who the fuck do you think that third and that fourth spot's for?
And crazy as I am I'm much tamer than him
And I'm nuts, then again who the fuck wants a plain Eminem?

Big Pun's up there.

[Rawn MD]

Pun couldn't perform ttho

Dead in the mi4ddle off...stop
5min breathbreak...
Little italy little did we...stop

Point proof.

[Frank Metts]

Pun was dope on wax but let money kill him

Fat joe use to and I still think is dope I'd put him top 25 maybe even top 20 personally

Xzibit as well ... Man when paparazzi dropped I was mesmorized

Pun > Fat Joe, IMO.

Big L was dope too.
Stack Bundles was another dope emcee. Not in my ALL TIME list, tho but he was ILL.

[Frank Metts]

Ohh pun is def better then joe in almost every aspect of rap I wasn't saying fat joe was better I was just saying he's been pretty dope since he dropped jealous ones envy way back when I was in high school lol