The Creationist view of the Universe

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if u faggots wanna burn in hell that's on u but don't expect everybody else to jump at the opportunity...I'd destroy ur insignificantly small world theory there with the watch/engine analogy but I doubt ur steroid damaged brain is capable of reasonable thought...what I will say instead is if u choose to believe that there is no sentient being behind all this then maybe u should read up on the staggering number of quantum physicists who have publicly stated there has to be someone out there running the show...even albert einstein said there has to be some kind of intelligence coordinating the universe...dumbass...

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Originally Posted by detour

if u faggots wanna burn in hell that's on u but don't expect everybody else to jump at the opportunity...I'd destroy ur insignificantly small world theory there with the watch/engine analogy but I doubt ur steroid damaged brain is capable of reasonable thought...what I will say instead is if u choose to believe that there is no sentient being behind all this then maybe u should read up on the staggering number of quantum physicists who have publicly stated there has to be someone out there running the show...even albert einstein said there has to be some kind of intelligence coordinating the universe...dumbass...

Einstein was not an Atheist, nor did he follow any religion. He was Agnostic. He never said there *has* to be some kind of intelligence coordinating the universe, he stated that he had enough humility to admit that physics cannot prove whether or not there is a God. Quantum mechanics, Atomic Physics, and string theory weren't even fully DEVELOPED when Einstein was around. Yes, he was a smart guy. But a lot of things have been discovered since the 1900's, and these fields are STILL not fully developed.

And humility is something that neither the fervent Atheists OR the incompetent theists have.

Fact: Nobody can PROVE or DISPROVE the existence of a God


and there was a time in our primitive past when nobody could PROVE or DISPROVE that the earth was the center of the solar system. And for a LONG time, the catholic church would have us believe that it WAS a fact.

But that was erroneous. And now we DO have the technology to prove that it is in fact, the sun that is the center of the solar system, and not the Earth.

Because that's how science works. Science asks a question - makes a hypothesis - runs THOUSANDS and THOUSANDS of meticulously designed experiments that well-controlled and -if- Every one of those experiments leads to the same result - we consider that a Scientific "Theory"


This is how religion works: Book was written by some guy millions of years ago. If I ask questions, I sincerely believe that I'll go to hell - so I don't ask anymore questions.



FACT: There may or may not be some sort of sentient being controlling the outcome of the universe, but if there IS - he designed an Earth where genetic mutations evolve via survival of the fittest and natural selection. Not an Earth where 2 naked people talked to a snake and made sons and daughters who all fucked each other.


/end of discussion

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Originally Posted by Answer

Einstein was not an Atheist, nor did he follow any religion. He was Agnostic. He never said there *has* to be some kind of intelligence coordinating the universe, he stated that he had enough humility to admit that physics cannot prove whether or not there is a God. Quantum mechanics, Atomic Physics, and string theory weren't even fully DEVELOPED when Einstein was around. Yes, he was a smart guy. But a lot of things have been discovered since the 1900's, and these fields are STILL not fully developed.

And humility is something that neither the fervent Atheists OR the incompetent theists have.

Fact: Nobody can PROVE or DISPROVE the existence of a God


and there was a time in our primitive past when nobody could PROVE or DISPROVE that the earth was the center of the solar system. And for a LONG time, the catholic church would have us believe that it WAS a fact.

But that was erroneous. And now we DO have the technology to prove that it is in fact, the sun that is the center of the solar system, and not the Earth.

Because that's how science works. Science asks a question - makes a hypothesis - runs THOUSANDS and THOUSANDS of meticulously designed experiments that well-controlled and -if- Every one of those experiments leads to the same result - we consider that a Scientific "Theory"


This is how religion works: Book was written by some guy millions of years ago. If I ask questions, I sincerely believe that I'll go to hell - so I don't ask anymore questions.



FACT: There may or may not be some sort of sentient being controlling the outcome of the universe, but if there IS - he designed an Earth where genetic mutations evolve via survival of the fittest and natural selection. Not an Earth where 2 naked people talked to a snake and made sons and daughters who all fucked each other.


/end of discussion

saying "end of discussion" doesn't make it the end of the discussion...

too tired to address every point u made, but I will say that albert einstein an quantum physics are not the same, obviously...doesn't make what I said any less true...an albert einstein did state there has to be some kind of sentient energy holding together the fabric of our universe...beyond that, I never said that organisms don't evolve...I said that creation came thru G-d an the story of adam an eve is true...the human genome project traced civilization back to one man an one woman from the african continent...lets not forget the bountiful problems with the missing link ape to man theory...

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Originally Posted by detour

the human genome project traced civilization back to one man an one woman from the african continent...

Do you even do your research before you spew bullshit out of your mouth? First of all, the human genome project was an utter failure, which didn't prove anything that hadn't already been confirmed. Humans share 99% of the same genetic make-ups as chimpanzees. Big deal. You also share 50% of the same genes as a Banana. Perhaps that would have been a more cogent argument for you to make.

Secondly, there is no evidence at all that civilization traces back to one man and one woman. There were 3 different species of the homo genus evolving at the same time in Africa. No shit, at some point you're eventually going to have to draw an intangible line that says "This is going to be the first being that we officially dub a homosapien" but that's almost as arbitrary as drawing a line on a map and calling one part Canada and the other part United States.

Furthermore, the Mitochrondrial Eve and Y-Chromosomal Adam lived thousands of years apart. Unless you're just naive enough to believe that the human lifespan was really over a Millenium back then, at which point - you should just off yourself now and save a lot of teachers the trouble of trying to educate your retarded little offspring.

If you want to believe in a God, that's fine. Just know that every Religion on this earth is the conception of pompous dolts who were dumb enough to believe that Humanity was such an important cornerstone that God just picked an arbitrary spec out of the vastness of the universe *because that was his favorite!* - and completely ignored all the other shit around it.

Yeah, No. There's Billions of planets, inside Billions of Solar Systems, inside Billions of Galaxies, in what could potentially be billions of universes. Billions of which have the potential to harbor life, which ironically never gets mentioned in the bible, because this....all of this...is all about you.

Right....everything is about you. You and your shitty little less-than-100-year lifespan. You, who couldn't even get a degree in science in math because face it, you're fucking stupid - as is everyone else in the human race, because our technology relative to the length of our existence is so primitive that it's laughable, and a large part of that failure can be contributed to religion, for setting us back decades after decades.

Logic. #Whenitworksitjustworks

[...the Nagger]

Originally Posted by Answer

Yeah, No. There's Billions of planets, inside Billions of Solar Systems, inside Billions of Galaxies, in what could potentially be billions of universes. Billions of which have the potential to harbor life, which ironically never gets mentioned in the bible, because this....all of this...is all about you.

Cuz he can do that dude, he's God

he's a multidimensional being, if you even wanna call it that. he created the dimensions to begin with.

he can stand on a billion planets at the same "time", you know that right?

how does having billions of other planets with life prove anything? serious question.

so since he made others, he couldn't have made us?

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Originally Posted by ...the Munster

so since he made others, he couldn't have made us?

If you're willing to admit that there is life outside of Earth, you're immediately writing off creationism, as well as every single religion on this planet which was also conceived during the times of a geocentric paradigm where everything was written and designed to be solely about humans, and their significance in the universe. At which point, congratulations, you've found logic. You're now on the same side that I am

I never said that God doesn't exist - my argument is against religion. Yes, the notion of a God and life outside of earth can co-exist

but the notion of christianity and life outside of earth cannot.

you can now return to watching dolphins masturbate

[...the Nagger]

Originally Posted by Answer

If you're willing to admit that there is life outside of Earth, you're immediately writing off creationism, as well as every single religion on this planet which was also conceived during the times of a geocentric paradigm where everything was written and designed to be solely about humans, and their significance in the universe. At which point, congratulations, you've found logic. You're now on the same side that I am

I never said that God doesn't exist - my argument is against religion. Yes, the notion of a God and life outside of earth can co-exist

but the notion of christianity and life outside of earth cannot.

you can now return to watching dolphins masturbate

I honestly don't understand your logic. How is believing in alien beings writing off religion?

and also, you wrote a pretty lengthy response just now with no answer to my question within it.

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Originally Posted by Answer

If you're willing to admit that there is life outside of Earth, you're immediately writing off creationism, as well as every single religion on this planet which was also conceived during the times of a geocentric paradigm where everything was written and designed to be solely about humans, and their significance in the universe. At which point, congratulations, you've found logic. You're now on the same side that I am

I never said that God doesn't exist - my argument is against religion. Yes, the notion of a God and life outside of earth can co-exist

but the notion of christianity and life outside of earth cannot.

you can now return to watching dolphins masturbate

1. God lives in Heaven....he has angels..in Heaven.....this is another place....where life is. so your agrument is nonsense. This cannot be debated, you can only say you were wrong

2. Christianity is not a religion, it is a fellowship...big difference.