where do you rank MANNY FRESH as a producer?

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Originally Posted by uh-oh

word. grindin is all that comes to mind when i think pharrell tho. all the other beats are topnotch, nhe's real technical. but i dunno i wouldnt put him over timbo or bangladesh. but thats personal preference. only timbo is probably better technically/whatever from the keyboard dudes i named, and thats debateable.

pharrell is a beast. like common is a beast. but i dont bump there shit like that. if that makes sense

I bump Clipse a lot. Timbaland definitely is the king of the keyboard/synth beats, though. Don't sleep on Organized Noize.

To me, all time producers, the top tier (in no order) is Kanye West, DJ Premier, Dr. Dre, RZA and Timbaland. That's your top five ever. There's always someone around to hate on Kanye, but he's earned that at this point. He's taken rap production to new levels of depth.

And Timbaland is the king of the single and played a big role in turning rap production into the main form of pop music.

I don't think I have to defend DJ Premier or Dr. Dre or RZA, right? In like 2000, they were the unquestionably top three all time. Now I think you have to add in Kanye and Timbaland, though.