Bernie Sanders is the Antichrist!

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Originally Posted by uh-oh

cool lets argue semantics

i know socialism as the government basically owning everything including your earnings, and redistributing wealth amongst everyone. people who make more, get more taken, people who make less get more given

thats nonsense.

i'm all for roads and bridges. i use those. and guess what. my tax money goes towards paying that. as well as the police, fire fighters, teachers, military and everything else.

i already feel i pay too much. the roads are shit. i live in ohio. by the time they are patched efficiently its winter again and the cycle renews.

when a candidate is deemed socialist in america it basically means they want to tax people who are more fortunate to help those less fortunate.

thats nonsense.

and people always try and say shit, like uhoh you are someone who would benefit from these programs, but i've never benefitted from shit, i've never received any form of help from the government, and i don't wish too. unless you count my dogshit education or the fact i use public roads. got me! socialism!

i don't think you have a full understanding of what socialism is or how it works. it's not so much that you would take more from the rich and give to the poor. socialism is a belief in a society where everyone contributes to the public well being according to their ability. the government provides the services that everyone depends on, which become assets that everyone has partial ownership in.

this is opposed to capitalism where survival of the fittest basically applies and whoever is the strongest will just take the biggest slice of the pie, regardless of the needs of and cost to other people. pure capitalism wouldnt include socialist concepts like "regulations" so there would be no one to make sure there isn't pink slime in your big mac no one around to tell bp to clean up after themselves when they geyser oil over the gulf.

in order to have a stable society in the long term, you need aspects of both of these systems. the capitalist parts regulate trade, provide incentives for innovation, and provides a mechanism for class mobility. the socialist parts ensure there is a safety net to hedge against random misfortune, provide the basic services deemed necessary for humane life and social order, and to provide for people who are less able to provide for themselves (sick, eldery, disabled, etc).

you should spend some time educating yourself about how the government and the economy work because most of the information youre reciting is strategically misinformed political propaganda. socialism is only evil because the conservatives tied it to communism during the cold war when russia was our enemies. that has nothing to do with actual reality where the majority of the services governments provide are socialist in nature.