hey biggie fans.... - Page 4

oats · 01-04-2016, 01:52 PM

fat people like Biggie, and shredded people with occasionally effeminate mannerisms like Pac.

Certain · 01-04-2016, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by quaker oats

fat people like Biggie, and shredded people with occasionally effeminate mannerisms like Pac.

*extremely Biggie voice*

"Ungh."

oats · 01-04-2016, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Certain

*extremely Biggie voice*

"Ungh."

you're toeing the line here.

the real question: who is worse, the Outlawz or Junior Mafia?

Certain · 01-04-2016, 02:06 PM

Junior Mafia probably was worse. But 2Pac put the Outlawz on way more and more important tracks. Imagine how great "Hail Mary" and "Me Against the World" would have been as solo tracks? Those would be the two best songs he ever recorded, except the Outlawz suck.

Witty · 01-04-2016, 02:10 PM

Does having sex with men count as effeminate?

Cuz I...uhhh...I don't do that.

oats · 01-04-2016, 02:13 PM

forreal, they straight up ruined classic songs. I remember buying this album in middle school out of blind Tupac fandom. I was so cool.

Greed · 01-04-2016, 02:56 PM

Outlawz did ruin all sorts of tracks. Kadafi had flashes rip and eveything but really pac would have been wise to just make the songs shorter.

Ghost1 · 01-04-2016, 03:00 PM

Outlawz lol. For shame.

Ghost1 · 01-04-2016, 03:11 PM

I wish outlawz were the outsidaz lol

Inno · 01-04-2016, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Allen Knight

lol of course big was super consistent, nigga had only 2 solo albums.

This.

Argument over

Pac has too much work to compare with someone who only put out 2 projects

Chill Phil · 01-04-2016, 03:59 PM

both artists never got heavy rotation from me.

Certain · 01-04-2016, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Chill Phil

both artists never got heavy rotation from me.

Having heard your tracks, I'm not surprised.

Let me guess: You're a big fan of B.o.B.

Chill Phil · 01-04-2016, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Certain

Having heard your tracks, I'm not surprised.

Let me guess: You're a big fan of B.o.B.

nope

~RustyGunZ~ · 01-04-2016, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Allen Knight

congrats, ur off to being the worst poster in 2016 so far.

Lol yes not agreeing with some people is terrible posting

Post one line by pac that is ground breaking and truly thoughtful not just talking about a social issue incorrectly with simple words for the phlebs

His beats 7 times out of 10 were boring and lame and his flow was just mediocre

I'm not saying he's the worst. He's talented in the sense any half decent rapper now is. But that's all he is. Ok. Some good some bad. Nothing spectacular.

Certain · 01-04-2016, 06:03 PM

The poetry thing always got me. Yes, 2Pac wrote poetry. It mostly was very bad poetry.

But the best 2Pac songs are pretty great. And he had some strong lines. "My only fear of death is reincarnation."

Witty · 01-04-2016, 06:27 PM

Brenda's got a baby spoke on a very important and relevant social issue, and did it very well.

Witty · 01-04-2016, 06:29 PM

And anyone who uses simple words is fine by me. And I know lots of big words.

It's about communication, not complication.

Witty · 01-04-2016, 06:31 PM

I think Pac was more expansive than biggie, more creative from an artistic and expressive standpoint. Was he a better rapper? No.

Certain · 01-04-2016, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Witty

And anyone who uses simple words is fine by me. And I know lots of big words.

It's about communication, not complication.

2Pac did the opposite. He used far too many big words with poor context. A lot of times, it was for the same reason shitty topical writers do — because -tion words rhyme easily. He loved alliteration, the shittiest of writing devices to lean on.

oats · 01-04-2016, 07:14 PM

Pac's poetry is mostly wack tbc, but his poetic sensibilities transfer well into his music. Off the top, I can't think of any musician in or out of rap music that engages me intellectually. I listen to Tupac for the artistry, craft and the broad sense of humanity he was able to communicate. I wrote a (shitty) verse about it in the AOWL, but my first CD I owned was Strictly 4 My N.I.G.G.A.S., and it made a teenaged white kid from a small beach town felt like he had a connection with something larger and completely different demographically (basically, I felt like one of his N.I.G.G.A.S.)

I love Biggie, and the older I got, the more I got into NY hip hop in general, since it is by far more literary in its writing and sound and I'm a nerd like that. But no other rapper, and hardly any musical acts period, hit me like Pac did and does. I could get college-thesis about why his music is (at times) genuinely good art, but I think it betrays the reason why most of his fans love his music; I prefer Pac cuz he gives me the feels.

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oats Steel Cut Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 5,084 Battle Record: 19-10 Accomplishments - OM HOF (2x) Champed - Fight Night LXXXIV - Art of Writing League Rep Power: 79005428	fat people like Biggie, and shredded people with occasionally effeminate mannerisms like Pac. __________________ You should be water

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Certain Mad fucking dangerous. Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 12,066 Battle Record: 40-19 Champed - AOWL Season 3 - Art of Writing League (2x) Rep Power: 85899406	Junior Mafia probably was worse. But 2Pac put the Outlawz on way more and more important tracks. Imagine how great "Hail Mary" and "Me Against the World" would have been as solo tracks? Those would be the two best songs he ever recorded, except the Outlawz suck. __________________ I'm just swinging swords strictly based on keyboards, unbalanced like elephants and ants on seesaws.

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Witty Lime Life Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 16,978 Battle Record: 30-41 Accomplishments - Only Slightly Retarded Champed - Lyric Olympics - Summer Classic Rep Power: 85235118	Does having sex with men count as effeminate? Cuz I...uhhh...I don't do that. __________________ He listens to voices inside of his mind Explicit and poisonous violent crime.

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Chill Phil World's Heaviest Ghost Join Date: May 2015 Location: At home Posts: 2,585 Rep Power: 48431850	both artists never got heavy rotation from me. __________________ Drunk in the club, let a nigga say somethin'... I'll have him fall victim like the nigga base jumpin',

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Certain Mad fucking dangerous. Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 12,066 Battle Record: 40-19 Champed - AOWL Season 3 - Art of Writing League (2x) Rep Power: 85899406	The poetry thing always got me. Yes, 2Pac wrote poetry. It mostly was very bad poetry. But the best 2Pac songs are pretty great. And he had some strong lines. "My only fear of death is reincarnation." __________________ I'm just swinging swords strictly based on keyboards, unbalanced like elephants and ants on seesaws. Last edited by Certain; 01-04-2016 at 06:08 PM.

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Greed Raw Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 1,721 Battle Record: 21-40 Rep Power: 29975687	Outlawz did ruin all sorts of tracks. Kadafi had flashes rip and eveything but really pac would have been wise to just make the songs shorter.

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Witty Lime Life Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 16,978 Battle Record: 30-41 Accomplishments - Only Slightly Retarded Champed - Lyric Olympics - Summer Classic Rep Power: 85235118	Brenda's got a baby spoke on a very important and relevant social issue, and did it very well. __________________ He listens to voices inside of his mind Explicit and poisonous violent crime.

01-04-2016, 06:29 PM	#77
Witty Lime Life Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 16,978 Battle Record: 30-41 Accomplishments - Only Slightly Retarded Champed - Lyric Olympics - Summer Classic Rep Power: 85235118	And anyone who uses simple words is fine by me. And I know lots of big words. It's about communication, not complication. __________________ He listens to voices inside of his mind Explicit and poisonous violent crime.

01-04-2016, 06:31 PM	#78
Witty Lime Life Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 16,978 Battle Record: 30-41 Accomplishments - Only Slightly Retarded Champed - Lyric Olympics - Summer Classic Rep Power: 85235118	I think Pac was more expansive than biggie, more creative from an artistic and expressive standpoint. Was he a better rapper? No. __________________ He listens to voices inside of his mind Explicit and poisonous violent crime.

01-04-2016, 07:14 PM	#80
oats Steel Cut Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 5,084 Battle Record: 19-10 Accomplishments - OM HOF (2x) Champed - Fight Night LXXXIV - Art of Writing League Rep Power: 79005428	Pac's poetry is mostly wack tbc, but his poetic sensibilities transfer well into his music. Off the top, I can't think of any musician in or out of rap music that engages me intellectually. I listen to Tupac for the artistry, craft and the broad sense of humanity he was able to communicate. I wrote a (shitty) verse about it in the AOWL, but my first CD I owned was Strictly 4 My N.I.G.G.A.S., and it made a teenaged white kid from a small beach town felt like he had a connection with something larger and completely different demographically (basically, I felt like one of his N.I.G.G.A.S.) I love Biggie, and the older I got, the more I got into NY hip hop in general, since it is by far more literary in its writing and sound and I'm a nerd like that. But no other rapper, and hardly any musical acts period, hit me like Pac did and does. I could get college-thesis about why his music is (at times) genuinely good art, but I think it betrays the reason why most of his fans love his music; I prefer Pac cuz he gives me the feels. __________________ You should be water