ITT NAME TWO PEOPLE IF BANNED FOREVER WOULD MAKE NETCEES A BETTER PLACE

[Frank Metts]

Originally Posted by Witty

Is it bad that I actually kinda agree with both points?

Yes it is ... here's why .. you create situations that will cost the country more then the family on welfare ... you over populate jails and orphanages, then you have to build more snd the cycle continues. .. not to mention the damage a child gets from being separated from his parents whether at birth or not it causes damage I deal with these types of children every day. .. plus adoption isn't putting a baby on a doorstep in a wicker basket and ringing a doorbell and running away ... its costs money and not a lot of people are out to adopt right now unless their state offers monthly checks to parents who adopt children like the thing we are trying to get away from .. welfare ... so its just s vicious cycle

Point two would just create more propaganda and anarchy ... plus this is america the place were the popular vote has always been that a popularity contest ... the president is just the face to cheer or blame ... he can't make many decisions on his own, he is basically the scapegoat for how our country is doing in the years he is in office ... he smiles, kisses babies, makes public address someone writes for him and waves plus he gets a presidents salary the rest of his life ... not a bad gig

[TYSON]

Welfare effects all people white,black, and etc. The notion that African Americans are the only ones with welfare is ridiculous.

[Frank Metts]

Originally Posted by TYSON

Welfare effects all people white,black, and etc. The notion that African Americans are the only ones with welfare is ridiculous.

Who said that?

[TYSON]

Seems to be what veritas is implying

[veritas]

Tyson: it goes for whites too

Frank: It will get worse before it gets better, but the money saved on not handing out stipends will FAR outweigh the cost of additional prisons and orphaning....

see it through bro.

[TYSON]

I will leave u alone then

[God Of War]

Originally Posted by Frank Metts

Yes it is ... here's why .. you create situations that will cost the country more then the family on welfare ... you over populate jails and orphanages, then you have to build more snd the cycle continues. .. not to mention the damage a child gets from being separated from his parents whether at birth or not it causes damage I deal with these types of children every day. .. plus adoption isn't putting a baby on a doorstep in a wicker basket and ringing a doorbell and running away ... its costs money and not a lot of people are out to adopt right now unless their state offers monthly checks to parents who adopt children like the thing we are trying to get away from .. welfare ... so its just s vicious cycle

Point two would just create more propaganda and anarchy ... plus this is america the place were the popular vote has always been that a popularity contest ... the president is just the face to cheer or blame ... he can't make many decisions on his own, he is basically the scapegoat for how our country is doing in the years he is in office ... he smiles, kisses babies, makes public address someone writes for him and waves plus he gets a presidents salary the rest of his life ... not a bad gig

the problem is not lack of people wanting to adopt there is thousands in america, the adoption process is the problem which is why many people go out of country to adopt. also jails should have its funding cut. prisoners should have to work for there food and etc

[Witty]

Originally Posted by Frank Metts

Yes it is ... here's why .. you create situations that will cost the country more then the family on welfare ... you over populate jails and orphanages, then you have to build more snd the cycle continues. .. not to mention the damage a child gets from being separated from his parents whether at birth or not it causes damage I deal with these types of children every day. .. plus adoption isn't putting a baby on a doorstep in a wicker basket and ringing a doorbell and running away ... its costs money and not a lot of people are out to adopt right now unless their state offers monthly checks to parents who adopt children like the thing we are trying to get away from .. welfare ... so its just s vicious cycle

Point two would just create more propaganda and anarchy ... plus this is america the place were the popular vote has always been that a popularity contest ... the president is just the face to cheer or blame ... he can't make many decisions on his own, he is basically the scapegoat for how our country is doing in the years he is in office ... he smiles, kisses babies, makes public address someone writes for him and waves plus he gets a presidents salary the rest of his life ... not a bad gig

Word, I wasn't completely agreeing...I understand that is an extreme point of view, but I do think something needs to be done about these parents who clearly do not have the ability to look after their children but keep having them, or people who simply can not afford to bring children into the world ...surely that is just as bad for a kid? I read every day about drug addicts beating their children, forcing their children to live in conditions an animal shouldn't even be living in, and they are free to just keep having kids.

It doesn't seem right to me, especially with people out there who would be great parents but can't have kids.

[Frank Metts]

Originally Posted by Witty

Word, I wasn't completely agreeing...I understand that is an extreme point of view, but I do think something needs to be done about these parents who clearly do not have the ability to look after their children but keep having them, or people who simply can not afford to bring children into the world ...surely that is just as bad for a kid? I read every day about drug addicts beating their children, forcing their children to live in conditions an animal shouldn't even be living in, and they are free to just keep having kids.

It doesn't seem right to me, especially with people out there who would be great parents but can't have kids.

I mean the department of public welfare has really cracked down. .. a lot of children are being taken from unfit homes and placed in foster care until the courts make a final decision... I deal with them a lot