new Kendrick Lamar single

[oats]

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don't know how to post just the soundcloud link. I dig it.

[PancakeBrah]

Blech.

I say blech, oats.

[Split]

awful. wouldn't be surprised if that born again faggot Pharrell helped with the production like
"Yo this song good but the beat is too dope, try scrapping it and putting on a stereotypical Santana guitar riff. Maybe some backup vocals by Michelle Branch. And I like the lyrics, but they'd be better if you deleted all the content and made yor delivery more cookie cutter. Word it's got potential tho"

[Certain]

Originally Posted by Split

awful. wouldn't be surprised if that born again faggot Pharrell helped with the production like
"Yo this song good but the beat is too dope, try scrapping it and putting on a stereotypical Santana guitar riff. Maybe some backup vocals by Michelle Branch. And I like the lyrics, but they'd be better if you deleted all the content and made yor delivery more cookie cutter. Word it's got potential tho"

Yeah, like imagine if Pharrell got his hands on trap rap or something and totally made good rappers consider a pop audience. The result would be terrible.



(Just to be clear, Pharrell did not produce this track.)

[Split]

Originally Posted by Certain

Yeah, like imagine if Pharrell got his hands on trap rap or something and totally made good rappers consider a pop audience. The result would be terrible.
(Just to be clear, Pharrell did not produce this track.)

I was gonna say this song was surprisingly fresh for something Pharrell got his hands on

Trap rap is like Gucci/ Waka/ old 2 Chainz and old Juicy J?

Cause (minus Gucci) all their stuff that wasn't pop was dope... 2 Chainz and Juicy J very much sold out.

So yeah I fully agree

It just sucks that all the true talent is what big labels and pop producers usually manage to convince to try appealing to larger audiences

It's like if college ball was actually just an amateur league that wasn't limited to college athletes. All the top tier players go to the NFL with the other talent, and they are still super talented, but the atmosphere of the game just isn't as appealing as it is in the Pro-Am leagues. All the people that make the league worth watching are sucked up in a couple years and a new class of young talent fills their spots, so you only get to enjoy watching a couple years of your favorite players careers. Everyone that stays is like the people who couldn't quite make the cut and stay on the verge of dopeness, never quite achieving it.

[PancakeBrah]

I can see why some people would like it. It seems purposefully polarizing. There's nothing horrible about it. Just not for me. Not the direction Id like to see Kendrick go. But whatever I'm sure the album will be good. It is a single, after all. But much worse, to me, than his singles off of gkmc as a comparison. Doesn't portend anything. But as a radio friendly unit pusher I don't rank it highly.

[Certain]

Originally Posted by PancakeBrah

I can see why some people would like it. It seems purposefully polarizing. There's nothing horrible about it. Just not for me. Not the direction Id like to see Kendrick go. But whatever I'm sure the album will be good. It is a single, after all. But much worse, to me, than his singles off of gkmc as a comparison. Doesn't portend anything. But as a radio friendly unit pusher I don't rank it highly.

Worse than "Poetic Justice"?

Y'all are underestimating the complexity of this track. There's a lot going on, more musically than anything on Good Kid, M.A.A.D City other than perhaps "Swimming Pools."

I mean, if you don't like 3 Feet High and Rising, maybe I get it. But I also question your soul.

[Certain]

I love it. It's so Daisy Age. I can't remember the last time an act as big as him tried to recall early De La Soul/Arrested Develoment (yes, more than Beastie Boys despite the sample).

[Greed]

Pharrell cool

This was 2 niggas that might have done a little too much coke.

I never really liked kendrick tho.

[Fart]

just when i thought kendrick was bad, he gets worse

[PancakeBrah]

Snarky Certain is snarky

[Certain]

Split, just stay away from talking about rap from before 2012.

[Split]

Originally Posted by Certain

Split, just stay away from talking about rap from before 2012.

Stfu and get off your high horse?

Music is highly opinion-based.


I, too, could find a database of every rap album review since 1980, compute the average weighted by the critic's popular appeal cross-multiplied by their objectivity factor and then create a Certain's Top 2000 Albums of the Decade so I could scoff at everyone not in line with the general consensus & masturabte furiously to my self-righteousness.


But I'm not a fucking douchebag so I don't

All your opinions are so 'safe.' Do you listen to anything without immediately evaluating its worth in the grand scheme of pop culture?

[Certain]

Originally Posted by Split

Stfu and get off your high horse?

Music is highly opinion-based.


I, too, could find a database of every rap album review since 1980, compute the average weighted by the critic's popular appeal cross-multiplied by their objectivity factor and then create a Certain's Top 2000 Albums of the Decade so I could scoff at everyone not in line with the general consensus & masturabte furiously to my self-righteousness.


But I'm not a fucking douchebag so I don't

All your opinions are so 'safe.' Do you listen to anything without immediately evaluating its worth in the grand scheme of pop culture?

Music is highly opinion-based until you think that when I made a reference to Pharrell producing trap-rap and LINKED TO "GRINDIN' " I was talking about Gucci Mane.

I don't care about your opinions on this song. Many didn't like it. But your lack of knowledge is not a matter of opinion.

[Split]

Originally Posted by Certain

Music is highly opinion-based until you think that when I made a reference to Pharrell producing trap-rap and LINKED TO "GRINDIN' " I was talking about Gucci Mane.

I don't care about your opinions on this song. Many didn't like it. But your lack of knowledge is not a matter of opinion.

I assumed that you posted a video of what you thought was good trap rap. But couldn't tell what you were implying with that weird tangential Pharrell cameo

I asked if Gucci Mane, Juicy J, 2 Chainz, and Waka were all considered trap rap, earlier in their careers... because 2 Chainz and Juicy J are examples of what happens when you apply a liberal dosage of Pharrellitude to rappers who once had grimy, low budget production

Then you told me I know little to nothing about music when I have posted little to nothing about the music I listen to on this forum, or what I consider good outside of the latest releases.

I snapped at you to stop being condescending because I was trying to get specific information out of you regarding your music background/ engage in a discussion and not a debate, and you called me an ignorant retard who isn't qualified to discuss music because you misread my post and because you know so many things.

ALL BECAUSE I CANT TELL WHEN YOURE BEING SNARKY AND WHEN YOU ARE BEING FORTHCOMING

[Certain]

Originally Posted by Split

I assumed that you posted a video of what you thought was good trap rap. But couldn't tell what you were implying with that weird tangential Pharrell cameo

"weird tangential Pharrell cameo."

Friend, he produced everything from the first two Clipse albums and gave them their entire signature sound.

[Da BattleMasta Patrick]

Shit banging to me yo.

[dead man]

It's ok

[dull boy]

Never been a huge fan of Kendrick. Didn't see what the big deal was with Good Kid, even though I admit to not giving it much of a chance. He has a unique voice and style, with catchy cadences and flows. He's good, just not anything like what he seems to be regarded as.

This song is good as a single, and does have a kind of timeless feel to it. Good music this song is. It's stuck in my head while I type this, actually. I'd prefer hearing this 10 times a day on the radio juxtaposed with Pharrell's Happy song.

Originally Posted by dead man

It's ok

[Izzy Reef]

It's garbage.. It might have a message but, this ain't fuckinSing About Me had one of the strongest messages on that album imo..

This is just ridiculous.