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Old 12-02-2018, 06:59 PM   #1
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So this is something new I'm trying, just for my curiosity and due to my interest in psychoanalysis and I've always been more in to philosophy than religion. I did my first one yesterday on FB and I used the meme where it asks: Would you stomp on the puppy for 18 BILLION DOLLARS.

But I changed it up to be more morally thought provoking. So I asked, for every 1$ let's say the saves an animals life. So that's 18 Billion animals you could save, endangered species could be saved from going extinct ect. So, would you kill the puppy in order to help the 18 Billion animals?

Well here's the results.

NO: 11 total. 6 females and 5 males (didn't cover demographics or any of that just men/women.

YES:4 Total. 3 females and 1 Male.

I had spent a lot of time drawing a conclusion from this and it's supposed to make you question your morals. Does the end justify the means?
How about any of you guys, what would you answer? And you have think about it carefully.

(So I want to continue this trend for my own intellectual reasons and curiosity and would like some help with more Thought Experiment ideas. Yes I checked Google and read some to give me some more ideas but I want to hear more original ideas. Anyone care to help or at least answer the question I posted?) I'll post my short summary conclusion (kept it short due to not enough participants and kept it vague for a reason.)
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Old 12-02-2018, 07:01 PM   #2
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i would eat a puppy while its alive with my hands and teeth for 18 billion dollars is this a serious question?
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i would eat a puppy while its alive for 18 billion dollars is this a serious question?
Yes it is. And yes I had plenty of trolls say yes (I troll myself as well) but was asking for legitimate yes or no.
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i would eat a puppy while its alive with my hands and teeth for 18 billion dollars is this a serious question?
I’m going with uh-oh here and it’s not even close. I eat chicken wings you think ima save a puppy bc it’s domesticated? Idiot.
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But as I said I changed it from it being about the 18 Billion dollars to each dollar would go to save an animals life. If you want to keep it like the original question and just keep the money idc do as u please.
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im not trolling in the least bit. i would stomp a puppy for 18 billion dollars, and thats not even a difficult question, and im someone who loves dogs. im one of those weirdos that would rather see a human hurt than a dog.

i wouldn't stomp a puppy to give 18 billion dollars to puppy welfare though, like if it just miraculously helped puppies if i stomped one to death.

but yea your experiment is flawed because its facebook where people don't want to look like terrible people to people who know them.
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So you've rewritten the trolley lever thought experiment?
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I feel my former thread about punching blind children n shit was a bit better then this ngl, and that was just a meme.

I’d fucking clobber that puppy, no joke. Animals besides us are under our control for a reason. We’re top dogs on this earth, unlike all those other pussies, including the actual pussies.

But if the destruction of those animals, all 18 million, effect the environment in ways that negatively effect humans in the future, I’d have to rethink.
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No lie my better half loves that show. I remember hearing about it in high school though. It didn't come from that though, right?
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But yea, pretty classic ethical thought experiment.
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Lol thanks. Was hoping wouldnt have to scroll too far for this to be said.

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I assume you meant Elp? But yes I read books, quite interesting. I was only trying to put something in to my own laymen ways instead of using other classical thought experiments instead. Was no attempt at rewriting anything, merely experimenting with thinking about different types of thought experiment scenarios.
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I assume you meant Elp? But yes I read books, quite interesting. I was only trying to put something in to my own laymen ways instead of using other classical thought experiments instead. Was no attempt at rewriting anything, merely experimenting with thinking about different types of thought experiment scenarios.
Idk how much simpler the trolley lever thing could get tbh. Instead of kill one to save a handful of people, you're killing one to save 18 billion dogs. There's like 5 active trolley routes in my region but it's a lot easier to wrap my head around than your scenario... Am I out of touch?

On my Bob Barker shit I'm about to say no anyway. 18 billion dogs is too much to a point where so many would starve/go feral/fight for resources from other animals (pushing them to extinction etc)
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Idk how much simpler the trolley lever thing could get tbh. Instead of kill one to save a handful of people, you're killing one to save 18 billion dogs. There's like 5 active trolley routes in my region but it's a lot easier to wrap my head around than your scenario... Am I out of touch?

On my Bob Barker shit I'm about to say no anyway. 18 billion dogs is too much to a point where so many would starve/go feral/fight for resources from other animals (pushing them to extinction etc)
This was also my point, you guys are over looking what I said at face value. I said think about the consequences (do we really NEED to save 18 billion animals" because of over population and the inflation increases daily and the ratio to that of humans is like 7.6 billion people on this planet. So that was stated like that to be a stupid sounding question in that regard.
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Agreed I like dogs but would massacre a litter of newborn puppies for that kind of cash
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