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Old 05-06-2014, 06:53 AM   #1
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what do you feel about the apochryphal gospels?

do you dismiss them since they werent canonised? ignorant of them? like them too?

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1. The authorized king James bible is the legit word of God
2. God inspired men to write it...he wrote it thru them.
3. You could read it all day amd everyday for your whole life and still not scratch the surface. It is alive.
4. Thr apocryphal books which I have read are watered down amd contradictory. They are obv not inspired.
5. The book of enoch is legit outside info as it is referenced in the Bible a few tines and is fascinating.


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Old 05-06-2014, 12:22 PM   #3
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hmm. what are your thoughts on constantine? when I get off work ill be able to engage more
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Old 05-06-2014, 12:47 PM   #4
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If the book of Enoch is legit why are so many Christians upset with the watchers being in the new film Noah?
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Old 05-06-2014, 01:20 PM   #5
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Because Noah was a homosexual and he brought his boy toy on that boat instead of a bitch.
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Old 05-06-2014, 01:42 PM   #6
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Lol at King James Bible being the word of god

U that special king of "stupid smart"

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waiting on you uh-oh.
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Old 05-06-2014, 05:26 PM   #10
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waiting on you uh-oh.
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what are your thoughts on constantine, the man/saint, do you feel he deserves his status as a saint, and or do you know much about him?

also how do you feel about the translations, do you think the king james bible would be better if it was translated direct from the aramaic it was originally written in, since we understand that language as well as they did when they translated it to greek? im pretty sure the king james bible of today went through something like, original texts-greek-latin-german-then english, maybe even more.

let me get to what you replied tho

ok, you say that the apocryhal or however you spell it, gospels are watered down, yet, we have them in there original texts. you claim the king james bible is perfect, but would it not be more watered down since it has gone through numerous translations, where as the apocryphal gospels are still original?
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Uh oh....make that last paragraph make sense then get back to me.


If I have a thousand year old document in mint condition versus a thousand year old document that is all torn up and I have to decide which is legit I will go with the tore up one.

See if you can figure out why.

Also the knowledge of the present KING JAMES is available to anyone who has an open mind to see how it is preserved

I reccomend you actuallt study it before you play games trying to debase it however.
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You discredit one text for being contradictory but don't see any of that in the bible at all?
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Old 05-06-2014, 07:28 PM   #15
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Uh oh....make that last paragraph make sense then get back to me.


If I have a thousand year old document in mint condition versus a thousand year old document that is all torn up and I have to decide which is legit I will go with the tore up one.

See if you can figure out why.

Also the knowledge of the present KING JAMES is available to anyone who has an open mind to see how it is preserved

I reccomend you actuallt study it before you play games trying to debase it however.
word im not trying to debase it, just opening a discussion

what i was saying with my final paragraph is, wouldnt a gospel, written in the language it originated, be less watered down, than a gospel that has been translated 5 times from its original language?

but yo, did you know that scholars of the day thought the greek translation itself was an abomination and the most sacriligeous shit ever? back in whatever BC

one of the things changed for example, is mary being a virgin. she was actually a "maiden" which only meant young woman, they had a word for virgin, and would have used it if thats what they intended.

that is just one of an insane amount of things lost in translation

and think about this

that was lost from the FIRST translation. from aramaic to greek.

what was lost/changed when it went from greek to latin? what about latin to german? and so on.

another interesting tidbit. in the original texts, they don't number the "wise men" they basically say "some" wise men show up with gifts, and they arent "wise men" they are maegi

which i take to mean wizards.

thats just my personal belief however.
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1. By what authority do you speak on the maiden business

2. Even if, she gave birth to a man who said he was God and died and then rose from the dead.

3. If he did not rise from the dead...where is his body?
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1. by the authority of being a person who heard a jewish scholar say so.

2. allegedly.

3. personally I don't believe he existed at all but if he did he is either long decomposed or his followers moved him. or he ascended to heaven duh

how do you feel about constantine?

how do you feel about warrior jesus on a white horse with a bloody sword?

how do you feel about young jesus who blinded a teacher who annoyed him and killed another boy for bumping him?

in Exodus 424 I think it is god is looking for moses to kill him. what do you think this passage is about?
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1. most jews (minus the messianic) have been blinded. They are still looking for teh messiah to come.
2. where is his body?
3. think about it. all the jews and romans had to do to end the whole mess was produce a body....they didnt even try. The body was gone. Also over 500 bore witness of him after his death.

constantine: was a stupid movie
warrior Jesus: be afraid...be very afraid.
young Jesus: apocraphyal heresay. It matters not.
Exodus: Moses asked God to KILL HIM. Moses was depressed because he was trying to feed isreal instead of lead isreal.
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1. The authorized king James bible is the legit word of God
2. God inspired men to write it...he wrote it thru them.
3. You could read it all day amd everyday for your whole life and still not scratch the surface. It is alive.
4. Thr apocryphal books which I have read are watered down amd contradictory. They are obv not inspired.
5. The book of enoch is legit outside info as it is referenced in the Bible a few tines and is fascinating.


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surprised at your hard-and-fast stance!

while I def. agree there is more lie than truth in the 'add-ons', what truth can be found is pretty profound in terms of some of the more esoteric sides of his preaching, no?
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