"The Opposite Problem"

namix · 03-18-2013, 04:26 PM

do you have the "opposite problem"?

an optimist?! NEGATIVE! just positively positive
the secret of the universe relies upon the opposites
for context in our populous, how competent are colleges?
took a lot of ignorance to comprehend what knowledge is
it’s a problem which is relative, its apparent we adopted it
it's extremely unique, so commonly it’s moderate.
see the glass as half full with a modest bit of cockiness;
but if ya never topped it off, the cup would still be bottomless.

without a winter would a summer even be a thing?
if I never had a fall, would ya ever see me spring?
it’s sink or swim; but what’s a swim without a sink?
I think that I know – therefore I am, I think.
we peak then plateau, and we gradually shrink
no matter how far ya go, ya always on the brink.

Do you have the opposite problem? it’s likely it’s so:
answer with yes, or no – it’s residing in both.
a friend, or foe, above, below – in binary code
the ebbs and flows, they come and go, a high and a low

we want yes without no, wanna know without lessons
never had the answer, but want it without question
seek some direction: east 'n a south; north 'n a west
from chaos there is order, we’re an organized mess
it’s simply complex, we want a grade without a test
wanna win, no contest; wanna host? be my guest!
every notion we protect, all the motions we object;
are all perpetual at worst, and immoveable at best.

beauty is skin deep… but how shallow is sight?
when beauty’s best seen by the beholder who’s blind
can ya find an absent mind present in a moment of time?
in some cases ya capitalize; others, lower than swine.
but it takes both to take off – a case where all the pigs fly
and its the lowest swine who go most high, hoggin the sky‼

Do you have the opposite problem? answer it wise:
the answers black and white but may range from day to night
no wrong or right, narrow or wide, just a demand to supply
the secret’s too revealed to hide, so expect a surprise.

find depth in our shallowness, fulfillment in our hollowness
our future leaders will rise from those who can follow this.

Problem Solved.

Frank · 03-18-2013, 05:57 PM

http://artofbattling.com/forum/showt...OPEN-FOR-VOTES

Frank · 03-18-2013, 05:58 PM

find depth in our shallowness, fulfillment in our hollowness

namix · 03-18-2013, 06:06 PM

bro i'm strong at given the reciprocal feed -- but damn at least fake it a little harder lol

Frank · 03-18-2013, 06:14 PM

we want yes without no, wanna know without lessons
never had the answer, but want it without question

PancakeBrah · 03-19-2013, 12:58 AM

I didn't like this.

Not one bit.

Flow · 03-19-2013, 07:10 AM

@namix Dont take offence by all the crap feedback - this place has become awful as of late. Me and lars have done two collabs to nearly no feedback.

Anyways - I liked this drop - Think you went for some easy rhyme schemes in most parts which is the only critism but you made up for it with some decent vocab and ideas.

I assume this - I think that I know – therefore I am, I think. Is a clever play on cogito ergo sum
I also liked the binary code line followed with the a high and a low.

Over all a nice drop, shame about the feedback though deserves more props then its got.

namix · 03-19-2013, 08:06 AM

Flo - no doubt bro, that cake dude just walks around trying to troll me.

good looking on the feedback pawtna, thanks for peeping.

Camp Bell · 03-19-2013, 10:29 AM

this will be nominated into the HOF. dope ass rhymes mixed with crazy metaphors
i also liked how it was as if you were really talking to somebody with the direct
question, "Do you have the opposite problem?"...even going as far as explaining
what that could be. i liked the whole piece but these were standouts lines to me

Do you have the opposite problem? it’s likely it’s so:
answer with yes, or no – it’s residing in both.
a friend, or foe, above, below – in binary code
the ebbs and flows, they come and go, a high and a low

we want yes without no, wanna know without lessons
never had the answer, but want it without question
seek some direction: east 'n a south; north 'n a west
from chaos there is order, we’re an organized mess
it’s simply complex, we want a grade without a test
wanna win, no contest; wanna host? be my guest!
every notion we protect, all the motions we object;
are all perpetual at worst, and immoveable at best.

beauty is skin deep… but how shallow is sight?
when beauty’s best seen by the beholder who’s blind
can ya find an absent mind present in a moment of time?
in some cases ya capitalize; others, lower than swine.
but it takes both to take off – a case where all the pigs fly
and its the lowest swine who go most high, hoggin the sky‼

http://artofbattling.com/forum/showt...b-feat-my-swag

Lars · 03-19-2013, 12:10 PM

Hmmmm...

It’s dope for what it is, thought you carried on the opening multi-string too far, maybe? I’ve done if myself in the past so I appreciate exactly why you would do that, I guess that as my style’s evolved or matured I’ve just learned it’s better to loosen up the strings on things like that. Less is more, almost. You dig? It just gives the writing a more natural feel when it’s not as strict a discipline being applied. There’s a lot to like in this, undoubtably one of my fav. writers around here of recent times, and I don’t doubt a lot of the lines already quoted will be so again.

Good to see you still writing, bro.

Keep that pen moving!

namix · 03-19-2013, 12:42 PM

Thanks a lot ya'll.

I'll be returning the favor for each of you, rest assured. I plan on checking the @Flo Real and @Lars collab, and i'll peep the link you dropped @Camp Bell.

Word Lars, I feel you on the carry the flow tip. Really good feedback. That comes more natural to me than you'd think, but I think the end product does make it sound more contrived than intended - so I'll definitely be keeping that in mind going forward brethren, good shit.

namix · 03-19-2013, 12:42 PM

Thanks a lot ya'll.

I'll be returning the favor for each of you, rest assured. I plan on checking the @Flo Real and @Lars collab, and i'll peep the link you dropped @Camp Bell.

Word Lars, I feel you on the carry the flow tip. Really good feedback. That comes more natural to me than you'd think, but I think the end product does make it sound more contrived than intended - so I'll definitely be keeping that in mind going forward brethren, good shit.

Lars · 03-19-2013, 12:50 PM

@namix What happened to that second set of verses I sent you at Netcees?

You do anything with it? I went MIA a while before I left.

namix · 03-19-2013, 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lars

@namix What happened to that second set of verses I sent you at Netcees?

You do anything with it? I went MIA a while before I left.

naw i didn't bro -- feel free to repurpose if you still have it bro, because i think our end product would come out quite similar - which dope on one sense, but we could do better for a second collab imo... I thought it was cool to bring our styles together like that, just would would hope to take a more unique angle with you for a round 2, same good taste with slightly different flavor.

you feel me bro? im sure i can work something up to compliment your verse in short order, just would rather think of another unique angle if i had the choice.

03-19-2013, 02:54 PM

I enjoyed it...

loved the juxtapostions to drive at a deeper meaning...
on site, its not all that impressive, but with some thinking...its dope...

plus solid flow throughout, and nice display of lyricism.

Void · 03-21-2013, 09:39 AM

This was really dope. The concept is deep, but you tackled it in an easy to swallow way. Filled with wordplay and very tight schemes. Props.

Wise Wiggles · 03-21-2013, 11:06 AM

I really liked this. Put together well.

Matriarch · 03-24-2013, 08:30 PM

Clever and provocative

Something I've come to expect from you.

Didn't disappoint.

Quote:

can ya find an absent mind present in a moment of time?
in some cases ya capitalize; others, lower than swine.
but it takes both to take off – a case where all the pigs fly
and its the lowest swine who go most high, hoggin the sky‼

pay your respect kiddies.

namix · 04-18-2013, 10:45 AM

thanks a lot Rawn, Void, Whys Ways and Matriarch.

Will use this thread to prioritize feedback! sorry for the delay, been so busy, really shouldn't have signed into the battle league lol

much appreciated on the feed though ya'll, good looks!

Zen · 04-18-2013, 01:51 PM

This is dope. I thought I fed this when it was posted but I was wrong so here's my feed. Awesome post here namix. Definatly worthy of the HOF nom it recieved. I love the opening few lines because they put forward great questions (how competant are colleges) and give lines with excellent meanings (no summer means no winter). Overall this a great piece namix. Keep droppin Oms man.

http://www.netcees.co/showthread.php?t=5502
Feed would be appreciated

03-18-2013, 04:26 PM	#1
namix been that, done there. Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 2,259 Battle Record: 2-1 Accomplishments - OM HOF Rep Power: 85246655	"The Opposite Problem" do you have the "opposite problem"? an optimist?! NEGATIVE! just positively positive the secret of the universe relies upon the opposites for context in our populous, how competent are colleges? took a lot of ignorance to comprehend what knowledge is it’s a problem which is relative, its apparent we adopted it it's extremely unique, so commonly it’s moderate. see the glass as half full with a modest bit of cockiness; but if ya never topped it off, the cup would still be bottomless. without a winter would a summer even be a thing? if I never had a fall, would ya ever see me spring? it’s sink or swim; but what’s a swim without a sink? I think that I know – therefore I am, I think. we peak then plateau, and we gradually shrink no matter how far ya go, ya always on the brink. *Do you have the opposite problem?* it’s likely it’s so: answer with yes, or no – it’s residing in both. a friend, or foe, above, below – in binary code the ebbs and flows, they come and go, a high and a low we want yes without no, wanna know without lessons never had the answer, but want it without question seek some direction: east 'n a south; north 'n a west from chaos there is order, we’re an organized mess it’s simply complex, we want a grade without a test wanna win, no contest; wanna host? be my guest! every notion we protect, all the motions we object; are all perpetual at worst, and immoveable at best. beauty is skin deep… but how shallow is sight? when beauty’s best seen by the beholder who’s blind can ya find an absent mind present in a moment of time? in some cases ya capitalize; others, lower than swine. but it takes both to take off – a case where all the pigs fly and its the lowest swine who go most high, hoggin the sky‼ *Do you have the opposite problem?* answer it wise: the answers black and white but may range from day to night no wrong or right, narrow or wide, just a demand to supply the secret’s too revealed to hide, so expect a surprise. find depth in our shallowness, fulfillment in our hollowness our future leaders will rise from those who can follow this. Problem Solved.

03-18-2013, 05:57 PM	#2
Frank Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 3,228 Champed - NWL Season 2 - Art of Writing League (5x) - Lime Green Poetry Association - AOWL Season 6 - AOWL Season 10 Rep Power: 3853347	http://artofbattling.com/forum/showt...OPEN-FOR-VOTES __________________ *VETWORK*

03-18-2013, 05:58 PM	#3
Frank Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 3,228 Champed - NWL Season 2 - Art of Writing League (5x) - Lime Green Poetry Association - AOWL Season 6 - AOWL Season 10 Rep Power: 3853347	find depth in our shallowness, fulfillment in our hollowness __________________ *VETWORK*

03-18-2013, 06:14 PM	#5
Frank Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 3,228 Champed - NWL Season 2 - Art of Writing League (5x) - Lime Green Poetry Association - AOWL Season 6 - AOWL Season 10 Rep Power: 3853347	we want yes without no, wanna know without lessons never had the answer, but want it without question __________________ *VETWORK*

03-19-2013, 12:58 AM	#6
PancakeBrah SOBER Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 12,480 Battle Record: 2-5 Champed - AOWL Season 2 Rep Power: 85899407	I didn't like this. Not one bit. __________________ Netcees 2025 Revivalist Movement Founder

03-18-2013, 06:06 PM	#4
namix been that, done there. Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 2,259 Battle Record: 2-1 Accomplishments - OM HOF Rep Power: 85246655	bro i'm strong at given the reciprocal feed -- but damn at least fake it a little harder lol

03-19-2013, 07:10 AM	#7
Flow Upset Champion Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: West Mids Posts: 3,861 Battle Record: 57-49 Accomplishments - 50 Wins Champed - BA Rookie Tourney - 1-2 Punch League (x2) - Pandemonium Cypher - 1-2 Punch league Season 9 Rep Power: 24894581	@namix Dont take offence by all the crap feedback - this place has become awful as of late. Me and lars have done two collabs to nearly no feedback. Anyways - I liked this drop - Think you went for some easy rhyme schemes in most parts which is the only critism but you made up for it with some decent vocab and ideas. I assume this - I think that I know – therefore I am, I think. Is a clever play on cogito ergo sum I also liked the binary code line followed with the a high and a low. Over all a nice drop, shame about the feedback though deserves more props then its got.

03-19-2013, 08:06 AM	#8
namix been that, done there. Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 2,259 Battle Record: 2-1 Accomplishments - OM HOF Rep Power: 85246655	Flo - no doubt bro, that cake dude just walks around trying to troll me. good looking on the feedback pawtna, thanks for peeping.

03-19-2013, 10:29 AM	#9
Camp Bell Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 733 Battle Record: 10-18 Rep Power: 0	this will be nominated into the HOF. dope ass rhymes mixed with crazy metaphors i also liked how it was as if you were really talking to somebody with the direct question, "Do you have the opposite problem?"...even going as far as explaining what that could be. i liked the whole piece but these were standouts lines to me Do you have the opposite problem? it’s likely it’s so: answer with yes, or no – it’s residing in both. a friend, or foe, above, below – in binary code the ebbs and flows, they come and go, a high and a low we want yes without no, wanna know without lessons never had the answer, but want it without question seek some direction: east 'n a south; north 'n a west from chaos there is order, we’re an organized mess it’s simply complex, we want a grade without a test wanna win, no contest; wanna host? be my guest! every notion we protect, all the motions we object; are all perpetual at worst, and immoveable at best. beauty is skin deep… but how shallow is sight? when beauty’s best seen by the beholder who’s blind can ya find an absent mind present in a moment of time? in some cases ya capitalize; others, lower than swine. but it takes both to take off – a case where all the pigs fly and its the lowest swine who go most high, hoggin the sky‼ http://artofbattling.com/forum/showt...b-feat-my-swag __________________ get high. write rhymes.

03-19-2013, 12:10 PM	#10
Lars PROVEN BITER Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Wolverhampton Posts: 1,588 Battle Record: 5-0 Champed - The Winter Topical Rep Power: 1809298	Hmmmm... It’s dope for what it is, thought you carried on the opening multi-string too far, maybe? I’ve done if myself in the past so I appreciate exactly why you would do that, I guess that as my style’s evolved or matured I’ve just learned it’s better to loosen up the strings on things like that. Less is more, almost. You dig? It just gives the writing a more natural feel when it’s not as strict a discipline being applied. There’s a lot to like in this, undoubtably one of my fav. writers around here of recent times, and I don’t doubt a lot of the lines already quoted will be so again. Good to see you still writing, bro. Keep that pen moving!

03-19-2013, 12:42 PM	#11
namix been that, done there. Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 2,259 Battle Record: 2-1 Accomplishments - OM HOF Rep Power: 85246655	Thanks a lot ya'll. I'll be returning the favor for each of you, rest assured. I plan on checking the @Flo Real and @Lars collab, and i'll peep the link you dropped @Camp Bell. Word Lars, I feel you on the carry the flow tip. Really good feedback. That comes more natural to me than you'd think, but I think the end product does make it sound more contrived than intended - so I'll definitely be keeping that in mind going forward brethren, good shit. __________________ well fed.

03-19-2013, 12:50 PM	#13
Lars PROVEN BITER Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Wolverhampton Posts: 1,588 Battle Record: 5-0 Champed - The Winter Topical Rep Power: 1809298	@namix What happened to that second set of verses I sent you at Netcees? You do anything with it? I went MIA a while before I left.

03-19-2013, 02:54 PM	#15
Rawn M.D. Guest Posts: n/a	I enjoyed it... loved the juxtapostions to drive at a deeper meaning... on site, its not all that impressive, but with some thinking...its dope... plus solid flow throughout, and nice display of lyricism.

03-21-2013, 09:39 AM	#16
Void Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 221 Rep Power: 0	This was really dope. The concept is deep, but you tackled it in an easy to swallow way. Filled with wordplay and very tight schemes. Props.

03-21-2013, 11:06 AM	#17
Wise Wiggles nok Su kow Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 4,505 Battle Record: 1-1 Rep Power: 51788022	I really liked this. Put together well. __________________ "black as midnight..black as pitch blacker than the soul of the foulest witch"

04-18-2013, 10:45 AM	#19
namix been that, done there. Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 2,259 Battle Record: 2-1 Accomplishments - OM HOF Rep Power: 85246655	thanks a lot Rawn, Void, Whys Ways and Matriarch. Will use this thread to prioritize feedback! sorry for the delay, been so busy, really shouldn't have signed into the battle league lol much appreciated on the feed though ya'll, good looks! __________________ well fed.

04-18-2013, 01:51 PM	#20
Zen Arm the Homeless Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 4,102 Battle Record: 22-24 Champed - Art of Writing League Rep Power: 35079722	This is dope. I thought I fed this when it was posted but I was wrong so here's my feed. Awesome post here namix. Definatly worthy of the HOF nom it recieved. I love the opening few lines because they put forward great questions (how competant are colleges) and give lines with excellent meanings (no summer means no winter). Overall this a great piece namix. Keep droppin Oms man. http://www.netcees.co/showthread.php?t=5502 Feed would be appreciated Last edited by Zen; 04-18-2013 at 03:03 PM.