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Old 05-21-2018, 12:48 PM   #1
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Old 05-21-2018, 04:45 PM   #2
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glad ur back yo, nc = wack trolls who board w/ true hate
the stars have finally aligned...
heres to u falling in another black hole before a due date
heard ya mommy pays ur debts, fr. deb is serious
no matter what TJ Oshie'll take care of it in a Second, Period
ur life's more disappointing than the deadpool flick, i swear..
next time Cable falls short, tie it around ur neck & kick a chair
meanwhile ima make sure the tag shit ur in's dumb hard
im teeming w. concepts, Ur teaming w. a fgt who bit gun bars
the irish born flakey aint a force lately, honor the trend
s'only a Read Card if barcs on it or orc's playing soccer again
i connect haymakers to leprechauns n land kimuras great
think wwf in the 90's- ill Stun this Mick Man before the Break
equipped with bricks. its the initial fist that hurts, pal..
even if TJ Duckett, hell get Picked within the first round
this is scrawny n brittle vs solidly built, dude
id give u A Knee, Mick
..but wit ur condition it'd probably kill u
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Old 05-23-2018, 10:01 PM   #5
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Hollywood aka Barcotic aka Mr. pretends to be a black guy online. My goodness.


http://www.netcees.org/showthread.php?t=4720

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SHEESHHHH. You posed as a different man for MONTHS!?
Can't stand this dunce... Barc the real life meme 'Watches Black Panther once'
Correct me if I'm wrong Sir but u seem to be a tad taller!?
Shiiit I don't know if he a Griezmann but he's pretending to be a Black Baller
ORC been named w/ Hens & Grip on lists that tend to be stacked
Barc's more of a Frac or Resin. aka anotherrr faggot that pretends to be black
We were BOTH accused by Lama & came thru that shit Barc
But I champed the NBL a record number of times... You got a tattoo of a Shark
I rep my Country forever &&& YOU just a geek til the end
I'll give you that Irish Goodbye... while u're like ''Fuck Netcees! I'm leaving again''
Your text is cute. I beat your ass 5 times & ain't stress it dude
Turned Up to take the O Dawg & got Rejected, now even Finny's upset for you
&&&That Gun Talk from YOU is fuckin' pathetic!!
A Pop will put the Longnose alll on ya Mother's Side like Discussing Genetics
You ain't top 2. Not even 3rd on the list & certain ta bitch
Up there w/ Burden & Vic?! Maaan that don't Sit right like Hush girl when she Piss
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hahahahah.. at first read this battle was cool too

glad ur back yo, nc = wack trolls who board w/ true hate
the stars have finally aligned...
heres to u falling in another black hole before a due date
(i like this considering the intro. thought the no showing angle isnt incredible..but i like what you w/ the concept. cool open..)
heard ya mommy pays ur debts, fr. deb is serious
no matter what TJ Oshie'll take care of it in a Second, Period
(ha, this works. cool)
ur life's more disappointing than the deadpool flick, i swear..
next time Cable falls short, tie it around ur neck & kick a chair
(good. )
meanwhile ima make sure the tag shit ur in's dumb hard
im teeming w. concepts, Ur teaming w. a fgt who bit gun bars
( DEATHHH)
the irish born flakey aint a force lately, honor the trend
s'only a Read Card if barcs on it or orc's playing soccer again
(good)
i connect haymakers to leprechauns n land kamuras great
think wwf in the 90's- ill Stun this Mick Man before the Break
(ehhh)
equipped with bricks. its the initial fist that hurts, pal..
even if TJ Duckett, hell get Picked within the first round
(eh reference to me. i had to google him..obscure guy to me)
this is scrawny n brittle vs solidly built, dude
id give u A Knee, Mick
..but wit ur condition it'd probably kill u
(cool wp but kinda light..its an ok)

SHEESHHHH. You posed as a different man for MONTHS!?
Can't stand this dunce... Barc the real life meme 'Watches Black Panther once'
(lol, )
Correct me if I'm wrong Sir but u seem to be a tad taller!?
Shiiit I don't know if he a Griezmann but he's pretending to be a Black Baller
(lmaoo)
ORC been named w/ Hens & Grip on lists that tend to be stacked
Barc's more of a Frac or Resin. aka anotherrr faggot that pretends to be black
(awe dawn. why)
We were BOTH accused by Lama & came thru that shit Barc
But I champed the NBL a record number of times... You got a tattoo of a Shark
(the rhyming was rough, odd coming from you.. not feeling this )
I rep my Country forever &&& YOU just a geek til the end
I'll give you that Irish Goodbye... while u're like ''Fuck Netcees! I'm leaving again''
(lol, funny)
Your text is cute. I beat your ass 5 times & ain't stress it dude
Turned Up to take the O Dawg & got Rejected, now even Finny's upset for you
(ok..but referring urself as o dog kinda caught me offguard n made me not like it that much)
&&&That Gun Talk from YOU is fuckin' pathetic!!
A Pop will put the Longnose alll on ya Mother's Side like Discussing Genetics
(this was tough)
You ain't top 2. Not even 3rd on the list & certain ta bitch
Up there w/ Burden & Vic?! Maaan that don't Sit right like Hush girl when she Piss
(this was fiiire)

ahahah this battle was nice guys.

reading my breakdown i got it 6-5 in quotes but i can see it going either way. i honeslty thought barc would take this in my mind w/out seeing both the verses. lmao..but orc went in too. but yooo that teaming line from barc is lotb..it almost counts as two of orc haymakers..thats why i see this battle being incredibly close..but as is ima have to go w/ orc by 1 quote.

good fkn battle n props to both tho for sure lmao

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glad ur back yo, nc = wack trolls who board w/ true hate
the stars have finally aligned...
heres to u falling in another black hole before a due date
mmm decent
heard ya mommy pays ur debts, fr. deb is serious
no matter what TJ Oshie'll take care of it in a Second, Period
alright
ur life's more disappointing than the deadpool flick, i swear..
next time Cable falls short, tie it around ur neck & kick a chair
pretty cool
meanwhile ima make sure the tag shit ur in's dumb hard
im teeming w. concepts, Ur teaming w. a fgt who bit gun bars
basic teaming play but it was done nicely so this went from barely decent to ok, more of a diss to cred if anything
the irish born flakey aint a force lately, honor the trend
s'only a Read Card if barcs on it or orc's playing soccer again
nah
i connect haymakers to leprechauns n land kamuras great
think wwf in the 90's- ill Stun this Mick Man before the Break
wasnt feelin this either
equipped with bricks. its the initial fist that hurts, pal..
even if TJ Duckett, hell get Picked within the first round
sorry Man not feelin this one either
this is scrawny n brittle vs solidly built, dude
id give u A Knee, Mick
..but wit ur condition it'd probably kill u
is his name mick or something? This is decent

2 Good
3 Decent
3 Miss




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SHEESHHHH. You posed as a different man for MONTHS!?
Can't stand this dunce... Barc the real life meme 'Watches Black Panther once'
smirked, decent line
Correct me if I'm wrong Sir but u seem to be a tad taller!?
Shiiit I don't know if he a Griezmann but he's pretending to be a Black Baller
is this what you had for me? Idk if I’m missing something but where’s the griezmann tie in? Is it black baller? Cause I don’t think that would make sense..a miss for me
ORC been named w/ Hens & Grip on lists that tend to be stacked
Barc's more of a Frac or Resin. aka anotherrr faggot that pretends to be black
another black joke, this is decent
We were BOTH accused by Lama & came thru that shit Barc
But I champed the NBL a record number of times... You got a tattoo of a Shark
i liked this, good personal
I rep my Country forever &&& YOU just a geek til the end
I'll give you that Irish Goodbye... while u're like ''Fuck Netcees! I'm leaving again''
i found this corny, Mick
Your text is cute. I beat your ass 5 times & ain't stress it dude
Turned Up to take the O Dawg & got Rejected, now even Finny's upset for you
lol nice
&&&That Gun Talk from YOU is fuckin' pathetic!!
A Pop will put the Longnose alll on ya Mother's Side like Discussing Genetics
oh boy, this is fire
You ain't top 2. Not even 3rd on the list & certain ta bitch
Up there w/ Burden & Vic?! Maaan that don't Sit right like Hush girl when she Piss
alright cool

4 Good
2 Decent
2 Miss


This was a pretty good battle, Barc I can’t really say you had any haymakers tbh, you had a couple of good lines but this was nothing like you dropped last week. Maybe your forte is more so of what you dropped last week, gun bars and that kinda stuff. You went the WP route again and it didn’t turn out the greatest man. Orc started off slow, had 3 black jokes in a row that got tiring, but definitely picked it up after that. I’ll drop a soccer bar in every one of my battles from now on. Orc had 2 clear haymakers and a nice personal and only one Miss. Not the best I’ve read from him but it did the job.


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glad ur back yo, nc = wack trolls who board w/ true hate
the stars have finally aligned...
heres to u falling in another black hole before a due date
light to me
heard ya mommy pays ur debts, fr. deb is serious
no matter what TJ Oshie'll take care of it in a Second, Period
this was dope, lol
ur life's more disappointing than the deadpool flick, i swear..
next time Cable falls short, tie it around ur neck & kick a chair
eh... just ok
meanwhile ima make sure the tag shit ur in's dumb hard
im teeming w. concepts, Ur teaming w. a fgt who bit gun bars
i don't get why this is good... but ok
the irish born flakey aint a force lately, honor the trend
s'only a Read Card if barcs on it or orc's playing soccer again
naw.
i connect haymakers to leprechauns n land kamuras great
think wwf in the 90's- ill Stun this Mick Man before the Break
kimura*, I hated this... lol
equipped with bricks. its the initial fist that hurts, pal..
even if TJ Duckett, hell get Picked within the first round
AWESOME
this is scrawny n brittle vs solidly built, dude
id give u A Knee, Mick
..but wit ur condition it'd probably kill u
streeeeetch, no


SHEESHHHH. You posed as a different man for MONTHS!?
Can't stand this dunce... Barc the real life meme 'Watches Black Panther once'
sleepers, this is fiiire
Correct me if I'm wrong Sir but u seem to be a tad taller!?
Shiiit I don't know if he a Griezmann but he's pretending to be a Black Baller
don't know the tie in
ORC been named w/ Hens & Grip on lists that tend to be stacked
Barc's more of a Frac or Resin. aka anotherrr faggot that pretends to be black
yup
We were BOTH accused by Lama & came thru that shit Barc
But I champed the NBL a record number of times... You got a tattoo of a Shark
made me laugh, but no
I rep my Country forever &&& YOU just a geek til the end
I'll give you that Irish Goodbye... while u're like ''Fuck Netcees! I'm leaving again''
nah
Your text is cute. I beat your ass 5 times & ain't stress it dude
Turned Up to take the O Dawg & got Rejected, now even Finny's upset for you
huh? Decent
&&&That Gun Talk from YOU is fuckin' pathetic!!
A Pop will put the Longnose alll on ya Mother's Side like Discussing Genetics
dope af
You ain't top 2. Not even 3rd on the list & certain ta bitch
Up there w/ Burden & Vic?! Maaan that don't Sit right like Hush girl when she Piss
lmao, best flip on this yet

Cool battle, I have Orc here.

V/ Orc

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Very nice battle, I'll try and be really thorough since i love you guys


glad ur back yo, nc = wack trolls who board w/ true hate
the stars have finally aligned...
heres to u falling in another black hole before a due date
not sure I get the personal here, and i dont see a tie in to help i the set-up... did he get blackout drunk before the birth of his kid or something? this didn't register
heard ya mommy pays ur debts, fr. deb is serious
no matter what TJ Oshie'll take care of it in a Second, Period
boom... this is fire with a nice personal touch
ur life's more disappointing than the deadpool flick, i swear..
next time Cable falls short, tie it around ur neck & kick a chair
niiiice, like this concept
meanwhile ima make sure the tag shit ur in's dumb hard
im teeming w. concepts, Ur teaming w. a fgt who bit gun bars
ehh, I dig the directness but this is just okay
the irish born flakey aint a force lately, honor the trend
s'only a Read Card if barcs on it or orc's playing soccer again
lol, i don't mind simple wp flips (i.e. red/read) if the concept on the whole is flipped well and has a new tie in... that is the case here, i like this bar & the swag involved
i connect haymakers to leprechauns n land kimuras great
think wwf in the 90's- ill Stun this Mick Man before the Break
damn, this is dope .. i don't usually love wrestling bars but this was creative and the wp works
equipped with bricks. its the initial fist that hurts, pal..
even if TJ Duckett, hell get Picked within the first round
okay nameplay & attack line
this is scrawny n brittle vs solidly built, dude
id give u A Knee, Mick
..but wit ur condition it'd probably kill u
lol nice... wp works perfect & is fresh.. personal touch is nice


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SHEESHHHH. You posed as a different man for MONTHS!?
Can't stand this dunce... Barc the real life meme 'Watches Black Panther once'
lol, pretty funny open .. didn't know that happened
Correct me if I'm wrong Sir but u seem to be a tad taller!?
Shiiit I don't know if he a Griezmann but he's pretending to be a Black Baller
mannnn this is dope... the Halloween shit lol, wp works perfect, is fresh & the personal hit is fire
ORC been named w/ Hens & Grip on lists that tend to be stacked
Barc's more of a Frac or Resin. aka anotherrr faggot that pretends to be black
ehh, i get the angle but just don't feel like it hit as hard as it was intended.. wording is good but i saw much better frac & resin black lines in the day.. too straight forward makes this a miss to me
We were BOTH accused by Lama & came thru that shit Barc
But I champed the NBL a record number of times... You got a tattoo of a Shark
lol i like the swag on this one, pretty generic..wording helped, this was dece
I rep my Country forever &&& YOU just a geek til the end
I'll give you that Irish Goodbye... while u're like ''Fuck Netcees! I'm leaving again''
mehh, feel the him signing out/leaving has been done better, if it's gunna be rehashed i feel it needs a more creative tie in than the irish goodbye play used here
Your text is cute. I beat your ass 5 times & ain't stress it dude
Turned Up to take the O Dawg & got Rejected, now even Finny's upset for you
haha, cool site play
&&&That Gun Talk from YOU is fuckin' pathetic!!
A Pop will put the Longnose alll on ya Mother's Side like Discussing Genetics
fireee attack line
You ain't top 2. Not even 3rd on the list & certain ta bitch
Up there w/ Burden & Vic?! Maaan that don't Sit right like Hush girl when she Piss
lol good follow-up site play .. worked well as a closer



i've got it like this:


heard ya mommy pays ur debts, fr. deb is serious
no matter what TJ Oshie'll take care of it in a Second, Period
ur life's more disappointing than the deadpool flick, i swear..
next time Cable falls short, tie it around ur neck & kick a chair
the irish born flakey aint a force lately, honor the trend
s'only a Read Card if barcs on it or orc's playing soccer again
i connect haymakers to leprechauns n land kimuras great
think wwf in the 90's- ill Stun this Mick Man before the Break
this is scrawny n brittle vs solidly built, dude
id give u A Knee, Mick
..but wit ur condition it'd probably kill u

vs.

SHEESHHHH. You posed as a different man for MONTHS!?
Can't stand this dunce... Barc the real life meme 'Watches Black Panther once'
Correct me if I'm wrong Sir but u seem to be a tad taller!?
Shiiit I don't know if he a Griezmann but he's pretending to be a Black Baller
Your text is cute. I beat your ass 5 times & ain't stress it dude
Turned Up to take the O Dawg & got Rejected, now even Finny's upset for you
&&&That Gun Talk from YOU is fuckin' pathetic!!
A Pop will put the Longnose alll on ya Mother's Side like Discussing Genetics
You ain't top 2. Not even 3rd on the list & certain ta bitch
Up there w/ Burden & Vic?! Maaan that don't Sit right like Hush girl when she Piss



Damn... will have to reread & think about this one... dope battle, will edit
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Barcotic:

"heard ya mommy pays ur debts, fr. deb is serious
no matter what TJ Oshie'll take care of it in a Second, Period"

"meanwhile ima make sure the tag shit ur in's dumb hard
im teeming w. concepts, Ur teaming w. a fgt who bit gun bars"

"equipped with bricks. its the initial fist that hurts, pal..
even if TJ Duckett, hell get Picked within the first round"

Orc:

"SHEESHHHH. You posed as a different man for MONTHS!?
Can't stand this dunce... Barc the real life meme 'Watches Black Panther once'"

"ORC been named w/ Hens & Grip on lists that tend to be stacked
Barc's more of a Frac or Resin. aka anotherrr faggot that pretends to be black"

"&&&That Gun Talk from YOU is fuckin' pathetic!!
A Pop will put the Longnose alll on ya Mother's Side like Discussing Genetics"

"You ain't top 2. Not even 3rd on the list & certain ta bitch
Up there w/ Burden & Vic?! Maaan that don't Sit right like Hush girl when she Piss"


Overall wow this was a good battle and honest thought when I read barcs verse the other day that he might come away with the win. Nice np's, creative tie ins, I liked it a lot. Orc came out of no where with that personal to me, especially with the verse dropping and barc not denying it, to me that is really something he did. I think Orc did an awesome job at using that to his advantage and two of the bars above that I quotes involve that personal. I think it made his verse more solid, the rest was pretty nice too to add fuel to it with that angle, a solid overall verse - MVGT - Orc. Major props to both, both didn't hold back that's for sure, Orc got the upper hand here.
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glad ur back yo, nc = wack trolls who board w/ true hate
the stars have finally aligned...
heres to u falling in another black hole before a due date
this was cool little personal aiming

heard ya mommy pays ur debts, fr. deb is serious
no matter what TJ Oshie'll take care of it in a Second, Period
lol this was creative and funny af good nameplay

ur life's more disappointing than the deadpool flick, i swear..
next time Cable falls short, tie it around ur neck & kick a chair
dope nice flip

meanwhile ima make sure the tag shit ur in's dumb hard
im teeming w. concepts, Ur teaming w. a fgt who bit gun bars
light personal

the irish born flakey aint a force lately, honor the trend
s'only a Read Card if barcs on it or orc's playing soccer again
nah


i connect haymakers to leprechauns n land kimuras great
think wwf in the 90's- ill Stun this Mick Man before the Break
damn this was dope very creative wordplay and just visualizing the concept for anyone who seen this great tie in

equipped with bricks. its the initial fist that hurts, pal..
even if TJ Duckett, hell get Picked within the first round
nice nameplay


this is scrawny n brittle vs solidly built, dude
id give u A Knee, Mick
..but wit ur condition it'd probably kill u
lol good wordplay


Orc

SHEESHHHH. You posed as a different man for MONTHS!?
Can't stand this dunce... Barc the real life meme 'Watches Black Panther once'
lmao

Correct me if I'm wrong Sir but u seem to be a tad taller!?
Shiiit I don't know if he a Griezmann but he's pretending to be a Black Baller
wordplay was dope af very creative

ORC been named w/ Hens & Grip on lists that tend to be stacked
Barc's more of a Frac or Resin. aka anotherrr faggot that pretends to be black
lol

We were BOTH accused by Lama & came thru that shit Barc
But I champed the NBL a record number of times... You got a tattoo of a Shark
lol cool personal hit

I rep my Country forever &&& YOU just a geek til the end
I'll give you that Irish Goodbye... while u're like ''Fuck Netcees! I'm leaving again''
nah the personal wasn't there felt u could've tied something else in with the irsh goodbye concept

Your text is cute. I beat your ass 5 times & ain't stress it dude
Turned Up to take the O Dawg & got Rejected, now even Finny's upset for you
nah

&&&That Gun Talk from YOU is fuckin' pathetic!!
A Pop will put the Longnose alll on ya Mother's Side like Discussing Genetics
nice good metaphore

You ain't top 2. Not even 3rd on the list & certain ta bitch
Up there w/ Burden & Vic?! Maaan that don't Sit right like Hush girl when she Piss
lol

pretty dope battle here both had good shit. barc nice opener. the TJ Osheil line was funny af and creative np along with tj duckett. Mick man line lotb for me so fucking dope. Knne Mick was a cool wordplay also

Orc funny opener. a Greizman wordplay was dope af also. frac n resin were cool. shark tattoo.longnose bar was dope closer was cool

felt barc came off more creative had some cool nameplay and wordplay direction. Orc came on a more personal level.

I felt Orc was more consistent according to his personal direction.

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glad ur back yo, nc = wack trolls who board w/ true hate
the stars have finally aligned...
heres to u falling in another black hole before a due date
meh
heard ya mommy pays ur debts, fr. deb is serious
no matter what TJ Oshie'll take care of it in a Second, Period
cool
ur life's more disappointing than the deadpool flick, i swear..
next time Cable falls short, tie it around ur neck & kick a chair
st8
meanwhile ima make sure the tag shit ur in's dumb hard
im teeming w. concepts, Ur teaming w. a fgt who bit gun bars
st8
the irish born flakey aint a force lately, honor the trend
s'only a Read Card if barcs on it or orc's playing soccer again
meh
i connect haymakers to leprechauns n land kimuras great
think wwf in the 90's- ill Stun this Mick Man before the Break
st8
equipped with bricks. its the initial fist that hurts, pal..
even if TJ Duckett, hell get Picked within the first round
dope
this is scrawny n brittle vs solidly built, dude
id give u A Knee, Mick
..but wit ur condition it'd probably kill u
lol
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SHEESHHHH. You posed as a different man for MONTHS!?
Can't stand this dunce... Barc the real life meme 'Watches Black Panther once'
lol
Correct me if I'm wrong Sir but u seem to be a tad taller!?
Shiiit I don't know if he a Griezmann but he's pretending to be a Black Baller
st8
ORC been named w/ Hens & Grip on lists that tend to be stacked
Barc's more of a Frac or Resin. aka anotherrr faggot that pretends to be black
lol
We were BOTH accused by Lama & came thru that shit Barc
But I champed the NBL a record number of times... You got a tattoo of a Shark
cool
I rep my Country forever &&& YOU just a geek til the end
I'll give you that Irish Goodbye... while u're like ''Fuck Netcees! I'm leaving again''
lol
Your text is cute. I beat your ass 5 times & ain't stress it dude
Turned Up to take the O Dawg & got Rejected, now even Finny's upset for you
cool
&&&That Gun Talk from YOU is fuckin' pathetic!!
A Pop will put the Longnose alll on ya Mother's Side like Discussing Genetics
godamn
You ain't top 2. Not even 3rd on the list & certain ta bitch
Up there w/ Burden & Vic?! Maaan that don't Sit right like Hush girl when she Piss
dont know the personal but it sounds hilarious

i got Orc winning this decisively in a good match.
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