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Old 07-26-2019, 10:22 AM   #94
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not a problem man. i definitely want some clarifications after the voting closes.
Sorry for not having a TLDR-version but I thought some backstory could clear some of the things up as my concept seemed to go amiss by readers (I could be wrong tho, or it's just bad writing altogether, would definitely appreciate some thoughts after this reply even tho I felt @Diablo and you touched on a lot of it in his/your feed/vote as well. Link to the battle in case of anyone wanting to re-read: http://www.netcees.org/showthread.php?t=140492.)

Aiiight, what inspired me to write the piece was a dude I met a couple weeks ago while BBQ'ing in the park and smoking some. He got there with a mate, and is a virgin past the age of 20. Unruly, trying to be tough by saying edgy shit and throwing chauvinist jokes around and making whore-jokes towards the only woman there but dude really is sweet at the core. Just can't handle himself socially that well and didn't mean anything by it but it was uncalled for.

So my piece in general is about dating, unwritten rules of how to behave towards seeking love that is in a constant dynamic change and how the rest of the population responds to these "Self proclaimed nice guys" like Randal here confessing he's one of them, hence the verdict the way they (or society if you want) heard it during the BBQ or any similar instance of a guy trying to be cool and relatable for all the wrong reasons. Despite this dude looking upon himself as a good guy the jokes were definitely off and not fitting but if people/the girl understood him there wouldn't be any issues. Instead, he's the outcast that isn't like the rest of us in a way. I tried to reflect on people like him, and who are looked upon as great "boyfriend"-material and who isn't, and how society/we can respond to their actions in my piece as I think most of us has met someone with this character trait at some point in our lives, or seen them online, and probably thought ours regarding these people despite understanding there's probably some underlying mental issues going on.

To answer @Pharaohs Army, last line starting with theatrics on all bases is just me saying we're all (including the "nice guy") playing a theater of some sort where we adhere to social rules even if we may not agree with them cus that's what you do to fit in. It just comes naturally to most. "Faceless among ageless phases" meaning that it's not directly tied to age or a time in history either, it'll just keep being like this invisible constant yet changing thing for as long as humanity and dating is a thing. I think most of us know about Atlantis and where it derives from but I'm adding this regardless: "Atlantis has become a byword for any and all supposed advanced prehistoric lost civilizations and continues to inspire contemporary fiction, from comic books to films."
What I'm saying when it balances on the head of a ranting mantis is basically that nice guys are stuck in their ways of handling themselves derived from a place submerged in chaos and fiction, the mantis also gets their heads eaten by females after sex. They're (the "nice guys", in quotation marks since they're not really nice altho values/morals are important to them) advancing with stoic pride but get shut down by confident extroverts as they themselves have found their mate by just being themselves for the most part. Flexing in any way can definitely win a woman over, but usually when people flex it's not because they're romantically interested, they just want to get their dick wet hence palace for malice, a state of being in a highly regarded place for the wrong reasons.

In terms of the "joking locust", locust is described as: "Locusts are certain species of short-horned grasshoppers in the family Acrididae that have a swarming phase. These insects are usually solitary, but under certain circumstances they become more abundant and change their behaviour and habits, becoming gregarious." The joking locust in this case would be the guy that jokes about, seem all happy and shit but is usually solitary and feeling lonely. Smoking (weed or cigs, or whatever have you) chokes them as an addictive need, perhaps to feel something different or be dependent on something or have something to escape for a sec with), or simply giving triggering underlying paranoia/other mental diagnosis, thus the locust is lost and starved for focus despite having a swarming phase which could be understood as clubs/festivals/speed dates/etc.
The following line about potent roaches is both saying the rest of us without these issues are invasive damaging bugs but also that smoking can lead us to reflect on things which usually ends up being either about/discussing/or creating our "magnus opus", whether that'd be your personality or work of art, in the end it's a metaphor for how to be a good human being misguided by people or substances that may not be trusted to begin with on what your goals are or if you've even achieved them. The incel being self-reflective enough to realize this is me putting them a bit higher than the general society's understanding of a socially awkward person never getting any and our verdict (or the way society heard it/sees it in action) disregards that notion completely thinking they're not capable of dealing with much on a higher personal level which is very often not true, I'd rather say misguided or misunderstood.

The last stanza is basically me discussing the relevance of it all and how I see it at this point in time. I feel we're all playing according to the unspoken rules as they change a bit every 5 years or so, and we disregard things that shouldn't be disregarded and like to play the "holier than thou'"-card without realizing it. The topic comes in here as we're shooting them down, women are shooting them down, but we (those of us not dealing with that issue) kinda need this notion in order to keep it up since they're really not bad people at the core for the most part, just misguided, and they usually stay really loyal once they get in a relationship. But I'm not blind to the point where I don't see the faults in what they do either. I ended it on a short and simple note on purpose hoping the reader would reflect on why I said that in case of a second read through, or simply wanting more and readers automatically starting to reflect on their own as a result of that. That was what I was going for at least.

I definitely think I made this piece a bit too hard to read/understand what I was getting at but nothing in this piece was said without reason.
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