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Originally Posted by VERITAS

Pause. you said the tribulation is a 3 1/2 period...i say it is 7 years or 2520 days based upon jewish prophetic calender.

you err in Daniel's 70 weeks prophecy
you forget that the antichrist signs the treaty for 7 years


you err in being able to rightly divide the scriptures.

you can not use the existance of one thing to disprove the existance of another.

i.e. the existance of the wilderness prepared to hide isreal does not negate the rapture

i.e. the existance of the day of the lord does not negate the rapture.

now:

I want you to understand this, then I will make another post of pure exegesis which refutes your claim as it provides a question you cannot answer with scrip....and if you aint got scrip...all you got is lip.

that "jew" calendar is tradition by the Gentliles they are...Scriptures don't need heavthen tampering...they done enough. Those jewish converts in the land today are imposters. They don't know scripture...they put their tradition in it. You should read the scripts how they are written.

Israel is the "church"...Elohim made a covenant with Israel, not Christianity. Either join the covenant or suffer at the deception of Satan.

The day of the "LORD" is the day YAHUWAH....When it reads that in the Letter, it orginally says YAHUWAH, or means that. Not "Jesus"

1 THESSALONIANS CHP 2

3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;


this clearly says that before the day of the Lord returning the man of sin must be revealed.

I have no issue with this...

Nor this...

4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

5 Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?

6 And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.

7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.

Here is the question: who is the HE that has to be taken out of the way?

8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:

after this "he" is taken out of the way, THEN THE ANTICHRIST IS REVEALED...

9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,

THIS VERSE SHOWS IT IS THE ANTICHRIST THAT THEY ARE DESCRIBING AS "THAT WICKED"

There is no rapture.

Israel and the Gentiles are not dealt with using two law or methods. Yah deals with all the same. "One law between the natural born and the stranger"


Israel the natural seed, are not going to the wilderness then all the other people who be found worhty going up to the sky...don't work like that.


Point is...there is no rapture. Read the lesson with understanding.