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Originally Posted by uh-oh
the main reason for not getting vaccinated is its not a deadly contagion if you aren't on deaths door already
why do you gloss over this.
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Well first you of all, this has never been put forth as a reasoning by coop, kev, PHC, or anyone else I’ve discussed this with. Their arguments have ranged from “look at this video, the vaccine is gonna give everyone Bell’s palsy” to “the government orchestrated this entire thing in collaboration with every other country in the world in an effort to strip rights away from citizens”
Lets start by establishing you do not have to be at deaths door to be hospitalized or killed by covid. My wife works at the hospital and has a coworker who is in shape, in her 40s, does CrossFit and jiu jitsu and she was hospitalized with COVID for over a week. That’s not an assertion that everyone who gets covid is likely to be hospitalized, it’s just a proof that your generalization is false. Healthy people can and have been hospitalized by COVID. Young people with respiratory conditions or diabetes are also likely to be hospitalized by COVID and those people have a right to live, too. Anyone who is hospitalized by COVID can be killed by COVID. Whether they live or die is a matter of the quality of their care and the resources those hospitals have. If hospitals are overwhelmed, they don’t have the respirators for everyone, and more people will die.
What I will grant you is that you are significantly less likely to be hospitalized/killed by covid if you are under a certain age with no preexisting medical conditions, because you’re right, the data supports that.
Secondly, I’ve never glossed over this. You would know that if you didn’t gloss over everything I’ve written.
I’ve already addressed one part of the reasoning in my post regarding mutations in this very thread. Please go back and read, instead of glossing over it.
There are economic reasons to get the vaccine, because there’s no “return to normal” in a world where we’re just shrugging our shoulders and killing off everyone over 60 and with some preexisting medical condition and just accepting that as collateral damage. Those people are employees and workers in our economy. That also leads to overwhelming the hospitals which leads to more people dying for things completely irrelevant to COVID because hospitals can only handle so much. Then you’ve got the cycle of the fact that SOME of those people most at-risk for the virus ARE hospital workers which means an even greater shortage of hospital workers and even more needless deaths from non-covid ER patients. 2% death rate for Americans means 6.7 million people dead, and that doesn’t even factor in the number of hospitalizations
And that financial incentive completely ignores that HEY, getting a shot in the arm to prevent even ONE old person from dying is just the obvious right thing to do when you’re not a shitty person. If all I had to do is jerk off to gay porn to save your grandmother from dying, I’ll do it, James. It’s really not much of a loss on my part. And id rather get the vaxx than jerk off to gay porn, so as far as I’m concerned it’s an even better deal
And if the health of the economy and the health of a random stranger who doesn’t deserve to die because you’re a selfish piece of shit isn’t incentive enough, it’s also just a lot cheaper to get a free vaccine than it is to risk getting a hospital bill that’s thousands of dollars. You can get free donuts and shit too, idk wtf else you want
I’ve also got a section on COVID in my book that also addresses this and goes through the calculations when weighing the risk of the vaccine vs the virus that you’re welcome to read. At the end of the day, you don’t get the luxury of living in a world without COVID, so you have to make a choice. Obviously you’re going to choose covid, but if your only reason is “it’s not a risk to me” then it’s just selfish. I can’t do any calculations or reasoning that will change selfishness