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Old 10-19-2019, 01:51 PM   #27
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Originally Posted by uh-oh View Post
the people who are desperate for change are the far left. but there are plenty of people who would vote for trump over these far left politicians, that could be swayed to a more centrist candidate over trump. basically itd be easier to appeal to the other side if they didn't have such radical standpoints.

no conservative leaning person will ever vote against their leanings just to stick it to trump. at best they wont vote. the left needs to actually take votes from trump. the only hope at that is a centrist position

im also disappointed you put so much sway into these polls when they are consistently meaningless, espescially when one candidate is portrayed as a racist misogynist xenophobic incompetent buffoon, even if you do support him you won't do so openly for fear of being seen as what the media has consistently tried to portray them as. blind hateful dullards.
1 - people desperate for change are not confined to the far left. the "far left" are people that understand and support the policies on the table that actually help the desperation in this country. msm has told the middle and right these policies are radical and communist and blah blah because those are media companies owned by the industries that will lose profit if implemented. people are desperate for change on the left and the right(hence trump). the middle is fine with the status quo because they are typically middle class and don't understand what's happening because they are glued to msnbc. if what you're saying is true about trump vs. radical left, then biden would be smooth sailing, but he's not because his policy stances do not resonate. to be clear, no one running is radical left. bernie is the furthest, and he is just simply left. it only feels radical because the national spectrum has been pulled to the right over the last 20 years.

2 - i disagree centrism is the only way to take votes from the right. but truthfully the focus is probably more on the third of the electorate that didn't vote last time. the goal is more so to get those people involved. but like i said, bernie did a town hall on fox news, ripping into trump, announcing that he would take on big pharma, the military industrial complex, fight for medicare for all. he got a standing ovation. left & right agree on a lot of those issues.

3 - polls are polls. they are the opinions of people polled at that time. nobody is afraid to give support to trump in a poll lol, it's anonymous. but usually the polls are biased against young voters and independents. i look at the demographics of each poll carefully to see if they're worth a shit or not. some of them are. some are not. the ones on tv usually are manipulated or weighted in certain directions, usually old, likely voters.
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