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Originally Posted by sraL
Is there clear historical evidence that Jesus existed? No. But that's not unusual.
Is not the Pontius Pilate Stone the only evidence that Pilate existed outside the Gospels (and works likely to be derived from them)?
An event that needs to be considered when evaluating the accuracy of the gospels is the Jewish Uprising that happened from 66 to 73 AD. That revolt was completely crushed by the Roman Army. The Holy Lands were devastated. Written records about the life and ministry of Jesus were destroyed. Eye witnesses to that life and ministry were killed or dispersed. Anything written before the revolt is bound to be more accurate than anything written afterwards.
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philo of alexandria. a jewish philosopher/historian in egypt. (alexandria lol) wrote of pontius pilates rule as a prefect of judea, how he was a pompous fucko typical roman lording over the people harshly stamping out uprisings. he wrote in depth about him, with absolutely 0 mention of jesus. NONE. pontius was also mentioned in both the sources you use for jesus, josephus/tacitus, as well as the gospels, but i don't put ANY credence in the gospels. plus the pilate stone that was found.
the jewish uprising had nothing to do with christians. later historians mention them fleeing before the war, to pella (greece) oddly enough, but by that time there were already christians being persecuted in rome itself.
the problem with all this is you guys are putting historical credence into the gospels where as i basically throw them out. anything that was used to convert people to a religion isn't history to me, its pure nonsense propaganda. im sure there is truth within the gospels, because you need to put actual people and places in them to convince those around you of the magical nature of what you follow, thats the thing as well what is the written gospels im sure was what was being preached by the early disciples in there quest for converts, so they could well predate any of these dates, and be from the time when historical jesus would have existed
that doesn't make the historical jesus real.