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not a trump "supporter" yet i agree whole heartedly. the problem is we aren't at WAR. these are weirdo conflicts where we invade sovereign nations to fight groups within that nation, and not the nation itself.

i'm all for civilians not being rounded up and slaughtered, or just killed recklessly and non descript like. these conflicts become ridiculous because of that fact. we aren't at war with afghanistan, iraq, syria, libya, yemen pakistan you name it. we're at war with "radicals" within these nations

if we weren't restricted by all this nonsense, i don't think we would be there. it would lead to us actually leaving

i dont know though, i've talked with veterans and the shit is fucked. dude i worked with for a little whiles base was attacked in afghanistan. giant truck pulled up and blew the place up at the gates, his bunk/barracks or what have you was near enough that the concussive force fucked him. other than being blinky and twitchy he seemed well enough, but he was talking about when they went out ranging and shit they would see hostiles up in the hills running from them, they would be carrying munitions, clear as day, but not engaging them, so they were ordered to follow and basically wait until they shot at them, when they came up on top of a hill there was a hut and a little farming area and there was like 7, 20 year old afghan men, no women or children anywhere, all pretending to be hoe-ing the ground, they were compliant and after a search of the hut they found ak's and all that shit, to which they pleaded ignorance to, and said someone put it there. they took the weapons, but had to leave them be.

they watched them run away with weapons were ordered to follow, found the weapons and had to leave them be. thats nonsense. everything has to be relayed through radio with superiors before doing anything, with the exception of them being shot at. how retarded is that. those dudes lived to fight another day, and probably killed americans/english/canadians whoever else is out there. couldve been murked running away up a hill.

thats why if they didnt have to come under the scrutiny for every round they fire progress could actually be made.

the difference is they are at WAR with INVADERS. we are at "war" with an ideology. its stupid.

i'm in favor of getting out, and when we do declare war, its actual war. there is a reason we firebombed japan. there is a reason we nuked japan. we were at war with the nation, and what is a nation if it isn't the people? war is killing people. if we become so advanced that our militaries are literal robots, do you think we would send our robots to kill their robots?

ITS FUCKING WAR