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Originally Posted by Dominate
OK so I started reading.
I'm not sure what your point is for the 7th star of the plieades. Maybe you can link me to something? All I turned up from googling is that the plieades is a constellation that's been known to a bunch of civilizations for thousands of years, and that it's mentioned in the bible. Are you trying to claim the bible describes something about it that wasn't already known to man at that point? You'll have to link me - I couldn't find anything.
About the world being a "circle", as you said... Well, that's pretty much the counter argument right there. The world is *not* a circle, it's a sphere. But in Job the correct translation is most definitely "circle" - the word for "sphere/ball" is used elsewhere in Job.
You can twist the interpretation to make it fit the science, but again - that's my point. Without science you would interpret it as meaning the earth is a circle - flat. Religious people DID hold this view until science conclusively disproved it. We had this conversation a while ago and I thought we got somewhere - we agreed that although (hypothetically for me) God's word is perfect, man's interpretation of it can be and has been wrong, so current interpretations of the bible could be wrong. I'm only saying something that's a logical step from that - that science/reason is needed to arrive at the correct interpretations.
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We need to be careful about stating what we agreed upon Dom.
I believe that the Bible is God's Word. I believe that the spirit moved upon men to write it. It is supernatural. I believe that the KJV version of the Bible is perfect modern translation. I believe that alot of those other "newer versions" change doctrine and are evil. Although alot of Christians will deny this without studying it. As for the Bible being wrong, it is not. It is man making it say what he wants it to say to fit an agenda.
Now then here is the maxim Dom: "A man can make the Bible say whatever he wants, but he cannot make it say whatever he wants consistently".
Back to the lecture at hand: You believe that man-made science (technology?) trumps God. I believe that as we gain scientific knowledge we will eventually see that we know nothing of the vastness and the complexity of this existence. Point being: Science is the dull spoon scraping against the brick wall which God built. It is our glory to scrape, it is His glory to build it.
Shall i continue or do we need to argue about this reasoning?