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Originally Posted by Dr Dog

All I am saying is that this is not a Christian nation. The intent of the founding fathers was not tied to the Church or any religious doctrine

The Constitution is held dear because it is something that our country was formed around, but it is not our Holy Bible, it's a document that's at the core of our federal government

I think the Constitution can very, very easily be extended to allow for abortion, gay marriage, and transgender equality.

To be clear, I don't really care what Jefferson/ Franklin/ Adams would have thought of abortion

Again, I do not care what they thought either. Nor did I ever imply that it was tied to a specific church. All I do is dispute your opinions with facts...


Virginia Statute for Religious Freedom, Drafted by Jefferson in 1776:
Well aware that the opinions and belief of men depend not on their own will, but follow involuntarily the evidence proposed to their minds; that Almighty God hath created the mind free, and manifested his supreme will that free it shall remain by making it altogether insusceptible of restraint; that all attempts to influence it by temporal punishments, or burthens, or by civil incapacitations, tend only to beget habits of hypocrisy and meanness, and are a departure from the plan of the holy author of our religion, who being lord both of body and mind, yet chose not to propagate it by coercions on either, as was in his Almighty power to do, but to extend it by its influence on reason alone; that the impious presumption of legislators and rulers, civil as well as ecclesiastical, who, being themselves but fallible and uninspired men, have assumed dominion over the faith of others, setting up their own opinions and modes of thinking as the only true and infallible, and as such endeavoring to impose them on others, hath established and maintained false religions over the greatest part of the world and through all time. …


Go ahead, put a spin on it. This is fun.

bro, In God we trust and Under God were added in the 50s in response to the great communism scare

E Pluribus Unim was the OG shit
out of many, one.
still relevant, and no reference to God
learn your shit

Step away from the semantics, Destroyer. You can feel free to go right ahead and argue all of those direct quotes from the founding fathers I already dropped in this thread that mention God. It's not hard to add anything "God-related" to something that is already established as God-related. We can agree all day on opinion based stuff like "separation of church and state is needed" but that doesn't negate the fact that God is mentioned quite a bit throughout the US's entire history.

You ready to learn your shit now?

Obama didn't kill anyone you lunatic lmao
Neither did Bush

I'm not defending Obama from anything except the idea that he should be the scapegoat for all the bloodshed from our Crusade Against the Terrorists

pointing out Bush's flaws saved Obama because you just tried to shift the blame for what Bush did onto Obama

hahaahahahahahaha wut?

That last line, bro...lol.

Nope. YOU tried to do that.

How could I possibly shift the blame to Bush for the drone attacks that Obama himself ordered in Iraq after Bush was replaced in office by Obama?



I mean, wow bro. Again, I drop a fact on you...it is documented and proven that it happened but you ain't trying to hear that, right?????

I'm also not a Democrat. You just assumed that because I disagreed with you about the confederate flag.

Actually, nope again. It's because you blamed Bush for Obama's failings. That's a red flag tbh (no confed tho)

The battle flag (the flag you think "might mean something to some people") wasn't used by any states until it was resurrected by the KKK and then used in 1948 by the Dixiecrats.

What it represents is exactly that.

You sure there weren't a lot of Dukes of Hazard fans in the 70's that just thought it looked cool?



I mean, unless you think that everybody with a Sons of Anarchy shirt supports bike gangs.

Which I wouldn't doubt.

Your "facts" are not facts. I'm not sure how you think 'oh her der I never seen people get racism-ed here's some quotes that say God in them never mind the context of all of their other written work look here on the forums black kids are privileged because they get social media when they get shot' is valid anything

Again, this is opinion. I see racism all the time. I see it against all different races. I've seen more against black people when I was growing up but that doesn't mean that I think it only happens to black people.


Did you really just argue that cops shooting a white kid wouldn't be news, but them shooting a black kid is national headlines?

Cops don't shoot white kids
if they did it would definitely be national news are you dumb
WHITE MALES DONT GET DISCRIMINATED AGAINST
you are literally the worst arguer on the board and I've argued with Chyeahh like 50x

You argue with Chyeahh cause he's on your level, both yall niggas just be making up stupid shit and callin it facts like you just did above.

Here, I got you tho....


come
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/bristol...alt-lake-city/

at
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nati...icle-1.1619842


me
http://www.inquisitr.com/1412236/dil...lice-shooting/


lololololololol

The fact that you think this is indicative of the end of discrimination is laughable

You miss the point again. Once things start becoming culturally acceptable, do we not see a trend of what was once culturally acceptable being discriminated against? Case-in-point, Veritas is the only dude on this website dropping bible verses and that shit went over well, huh?

When and where did this happen? Link? Very interested in this one

What would be your reasoning for thinking it doesn't happen?

You do know that it has been a topic researched and debated for a few years now, right?

http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/12/21/whi...ion/index.html

I mean, you can pick your own news service that you like for further Goggling...

http://www.ajc.com/news/news/jury-fu...-job-ap/nRPnf/

^Ware said the jury shouldn’t have heard secondhand testimony that Commissioner Emma Darnell played a role, allegedly telling a deputy county manager that she had “too many white boys” in Human Services and the new director should be black and female.

I mean, it is flat out retarded to think that racism isn't universal.

Poor white kids get financial assistance from the government, but educationally do way way better than poor black kids

HAHAHAHA! are we arguing how well they perform in school now? Because yo, that is a totally different argument and I hope you are smart enough to know so.

You killin me, Smalls.

No, this is you farming quotes that support your argument, not looking at the bigger picture.

Nope. just me "Looking deeper" like you told me I should do. Right?

You are very, very misguided. See: Destroyer.

Well, at least we agree that Destroyer is misguided, that is progress.

But yo, you shouldn't bring opinions to a fact fight. lmao