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Old 07-07-2015, 01:03 PM   #55
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Originally Posted by Batty View Post
And thus the contradiction.

http://www.usconstitution.net/states_god.html

How can you possibly just "update" something to the point that it violates what it was written upon?

The Founding Fathers were almost entirely non-religious, and practiced Deism, which is entirely separate from Christianity.

EDIT: actually, according to wikipedia-
-few founding fathers rejected christianity
-few founding fathers were devout christians
-almost all founding fathers were heavily influenced by rationalism & the enlightenment
-many founding fathers & scholars were influenced by Deism

http://www.britannica.com/topic/The-...ianity-1272214

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Rather than address explicit constitutional provisions, American fundamentalists often like to quote-mine the Founding Fathers in order to divine their intentions and "prove" that they actually envisioned the new state as a Christian nation. They primarily target George Washington, John Adams and Thomas Jefferson, the first three Presidents of the United States, and claim that they were deeply devout Christians whose actions were to a large degree inspired by their faith.[4][5]
This notion is patently false: Jefferson's Deistic convictions are evident from his writings, and he was a high-profile critic of established Christian dogma; he even wrote his own version of the New Testament, the Jefferson Bible, expunging the Gospels of all references to the supernatural. Washington never attended communion services at his church and took great pains to refer to his god by Deistic terms like "Great Author" and "Almighty Being" in his inaugural address. While Adams credited religion in general with bolstering public morality, he was personally a Deistic if churchgoing Congregationalist and later a Unitarian (yes, the kind that eventually became Unitarian Universalism), and consistently argued that the United States had been founded on rationalist and Enlightenment principles and rejected the notion of divine legitimation for political leadership.[6][7]


http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/The_Uni...ristian_nation





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WRONG. Items featuring confederate flags are being banned or censored on ebay. The Dukes of Hazard was pulled from rotation and NASCAR is already asking fans to not fly the flags at events as well as offering trade-ins for American flags at events. Teams with "Rebels" logos are being edited, most notably the Ole Miss Rebels becoming Black Bears now and removing the Rebel Colonel mascot. This is just to name a few, but clearly this is a movement with some force behind it, right?
Freedom of speech doesn't apply to private entities or privately run corporations.

If you don't like the movement behind removing what is, and always has been, a flag symbolic of white supremacy- then you should probably found a corporation that's willing to deal with the public backlash of not banning one.


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If you don't think this has already begun, YOU'RE out of your goddamn mind, bro. How about a guesstimate? if you did a poll right now, how much of America do you think would actually consider there to be more corrupt cops than actual criminals out there? One man's "tolerance" eventually ends up as another man's oppression. History repeats itself, there's no escaping that fact.
#YesAllCops

Bold part is straight retarded dude. Tolerance is never oppression. Can you give a single example of how tolerance is oppression?

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and that last sentence of yours... if that were true, people wouldn't still be bitching about shit like slavery, confederate flags and holy wars.
If people weren't still subject to discrimination--religious, racial or otherwise-- then people offhandedly dismissing these as things of the past wouldn't seem so ignorant

Next you're going to tell me that we finally won and beat The Racism
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