Netcees - View Single Post - Round 2 - Kin vs. Bxyunggritty vs. Badi Alii - (Kin wins 4-3)

namix · 08-16-2014, 02:41 AM

KIN:
- this was my first listen of the tourney and of you, and I was into it from the jump.
- production was real smooth. solid execution. flow was on point.
- lyrics were cool, delivery was energic... topic was hit --- and emphasized with the interesting angle of how you went at your opponents.
...when I started listening your verse had me convinced that this was a "THEMED AUDIO BATTLE" vs. 'topical battle'... It actually lacked the direct personals/clear relevance to be a typical audio battle, which is what made me 're-check' the mic check and realize you just decided to make it battle.... which was cool... creative liberty, I can see how this could actually hurt you in some ways, but I dug it --- it took a generic verse and made it more pointed, you're in a tournament after-all and these are your opponents....

Note @Mike Wrecka: since you know im a fan of what you started here already, we should have a 'themed battle audio' at some point (not sure if you're up for running it or not but figured i'd throw it out there) --- i love how you constrained the battlers to the same beat and theme, it makes advancing far less subjective imo ---- it would be interesting to see it on the battle realm i think!

Solid verse Kin, look forward to hearing more from you.

Bx
- the delivery was solid, the flow to the beat was good with only a few hiccups --- but the MESSAGE was REAL strong out the gate.
- production was aiight, pretty much the level i'd expect in round 2 of an audio tourney.... could always be better, but i'm sure theres always more time to be spent on a lil more mixing & mastering.
- I really dug how you started off message-wise... it almost threw me off coming off of Kin's verse, which really made it stand out in a good way --- the more 'real' real life tip, sentimental and more emotional story... daddy yourself, your pops livin on dialysis....
- but then it just went polar on me bro... 'fast life, born to win...' - spit crack til ya head pop --- that was all cool in its own right too, but it seemed like it was a completely different mood or some shit, from admiring your pop's will to that lash out shit, I just felt it was conceptually disjointed a bit
- super detailed here, because both were cool in their own ways, i felt the yea "ya, damn, dads are great that sucks bro" moment and then the "fuck you all in real life" moment but didn't necessarily feel them together...

def. look forward to hearing more from you too dude, solid display.

Bad Alii
- i really dug how you kicked off with "wrote this between shifts, i guess this is as real as it gets"... I was about to get all in with you! There was something about the genuine nature of that writing that was going to give you a head start.
- your lyrics actually seemed very truthful out the gate --- which also get yous some points, like really i believed you were fresh off a shift from duncan donuts and writing on the lid of a trashcan in the kitchen alley or some shit lol...
- that said ---- clearly your delivery, flow, etc., etc., didn't match the other two in this case... there were a couple one-off moments where it seemed like something was about to pop off, double-time coming stuff, but it just wasnt pieced together in a way that lead to a good final product
- also as an aside, that self-choir / back-half bar repeat thing you did "not gonna like me / not gonna like me" type thing is something i would definitely nix if i were you. If you are going to do that, I'd lower the levels at least, so it is like a well timed delayed echo, vs someone repeating their words

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VOTE - Kin
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Came down to Kin and Bx --- and these things:
1. Bx got the message part -- but the message felt a bit disjointed to me from the jump (dialysis pops) to most thereafter (heads pop)
2. Kin's production quality and delivery consistency was higher quality
3. what makes or breaks most votes I have to imagine is how they feel about "topical audio" being flipped into a diss.... I did that once in an topical tourney and even though I conceptually CRUSHED my opponent, I BAAARELY eeked it out because he wasn't dissing me and everyone was kinda like 'wtf are you wasting the topic for dissing your opponent'... HOWEVER, since this is "REAL LIFE", which is a concept this board uses very very often to make fun of one another, I think flipping it into a diss verse worked fine for me this round.....

Solid shit everyone --- glad I got to peep this.

08-16-2014, 02:41 AM	#13
namix been that, done there. Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 2,259 Battle Record: 2-1 Accomplishments - OM HOF Rep Power: 85246655	KIN: - this was my first listen of the tourney and of you, and I was into it from the jump. - production was real smooth. solid execution. flow was on point. - lyrics were cool, delivery was energic... topic was hit --- and emphasized with the interesting angle of how you went at your opponents. ...when I started listening your verse had me convinced that this was a "THEMED AUDIO BATTLE" vs. 'topical battle'... It actually lacked the direct personals/clear relevance to be a typical audio battle, which is what made me 're-check' the mic check and realize you just decided to make it battle.... which was cool... creative liberty, I can see how this could actually hurt you in some ways, but I dug it --- it took a generic verse and made it more pointed, you're in a tournament after-all and these are your opponents.... Note @Mike Wrecka: since you know im a fan of what you started here already, we should have a 'themed battle audio' at some point (not sure if you're up for running it or not but figured i'd throw it out there) --- i love how you constrained the battlers to the same beat and theme, it makes advancing far less subjective imo ---- it would be interesting to see it on the battle realm i think! Solid verse Kin, look forward to hearing more from you. Bx - the delivery was solid, the flow to the beat was good with only a few hiccups --- but the MESSAGE was REAL strong out the gate. - production was aiight, pretty much the level i'd expect in round 2 of an audio tourney.... could always be better, but i'm sure theres always more time to be spent on a lil more mixing & mastering. - I really dug how you started off message-wise... it almost threw me off coming off of Kin's verse, which really made it stand out in a good way --- the more 'real' real life tip, sentimental and more emotional story... daddy yourself, your pops livin on dialysis.... - but then it just went polar on me bro... 'fast life, born to win...' - spit crack til ya head pop --- that was all cool in its own right too, but it seemed like it was a completely different mood or some shit, from admiring your pop's will to that lash out shit, I just felt it was conceptually disjointed a bit - super detailed here, because both were cool in their own ways, i felt the yea "ya, damn, dads are great that sucks bro" moment and then the "fuck you all in real life" moment but didn't necessarily feel them together... def. look forward to hearing more from you too dude, solid display. Bad Alii - i really dug how you kicked off with "wrote this between shifts, i guess this is as real as it gets"... I was about to get all in with you! There was something about the genuine nature of that writing that was going to give you a head start. - your lyrics actually seemed very truthful out the gate --- which also get yous some points, like really i believed you were fresh off a shift from duncan donuts and writing on the lid of a trashcan in the kitchen alley or some shit lol... - that said ---- clearly your delivery, flow, etc., etc., didn't match the other two in this case... there were a couple one-off moments where it seemed like something was about to pop off, double-time coming stuff, but it just wasnt pieced together in a way that lead to a good final product - also as an aside, that self-choir / back-half bar repeat thing you did "not gonna like me / not gonna like me" type thing is something i would definitely nix if i were you. If you are going to do that, I'd lower the levels at least, so it is like a well timed delayed echo, vs someone repeating their words ----------------------------------------- VOTE - Kin ----------------------------------------- Came down to Kin and Bx --- and these things: 1. Bx got the message part -- but the message felt a bit disjointed to me from the jump (dialysis pops) to most thereafter (heads pop) 2. Kin's production quality and delivery consistency was higher quality 3. what makes or breaks most votes I have to imagine is how they feel about "topical audio" being flipped into a diss.... I did that once in an topical tourney and even though I conceptually CRUSHED my opponent, I BAAARELY eeked it out because he wasn't dissing me and everyone was kinda like 'wtf are you wasting the topic for dissing your opponent'... HOWEVER, since this is "REAL LIFE", which is a concept this board uses very very often to make fun of one another, I think flipping it into a diss verse worked fine for me this round..... Solid shit everyone --- glad I got to peep this. __________________ well fed.