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Old 02-07-2014, 02:54 AM   #38
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you say anything greater than 0% certainty does not count as a belief
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belief is for things for which we have no evidence
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A belief by definition is the acceptance of something that has absolutely no evidence to suggest it is true.
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people with beliefs will not do so because they have no evidence in the first place.
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believing something is to admit you have nothing to support it.
it kinda seems like that's exactly what you're saying lol. and yes, beliefs can be proven. it rained for the past three days. I believe it will rain tomorrow. I have a good amount of evidence to suggest that this belief (or hypothesis - you can use them interchangeable in this instance) is correct. But the only time I will KNOW it is correct is when it starts raining. think of it like this and tell me where you disagree:

belief and knowledge are opposites.

to know something means that you have 100% statistical certainty IE I know I'm going to die since 100% of humans so far have died, I know the sun exists because we would not be alive without it, I know I woke up this morning because it was experienced and observed (it happened).

if there is no statistical certainty, you cannot know something IE there is a 60% chance it will rain tomorrow based off of previous experience and meteorological data, there is a 99% chance I will wake up tomorrow because I am sheltered from all but the most unlikely causes of death tonight, etc.

BUT - is there any chance, even .00000001% that I could die tonight? Sure - it's bound to happen one day, and until something happens (is experienced and observed), there is not 100% certainty.

Therefore, nothing in the future can be known (with the exception of death). The future is not knowledge.

belief=certainty minus statistical probability.

therefore, belief pervades all things that aren't known with statistical certainty, in varying degrees.
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