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Old 11-26-2013, 12:34 AM   #20
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Show the layman an abstract painting - he'll laugh and call it garbage. Show an Art's student or artist an abstract painting and they'll see things that the average person doesn't.

You probably know more about music than I could ever imagine, but I'm sticking to my guns. I know for a fact this new age of experimental hiphop grew on me more than anything. It started from KRS-One and slowly moved into more obscure areas; Dorian Concept, Dimlite, Amon Tobin etc.

Nonetheless, that's just my opinion. If someone could pick up intentionally off-beat static sounds, good for em.
that's the beauty of Art - we've been in an area where motive is the only thing that really and truly validates it. John Cage's 4:33 is a shining example - it's 4 minutes and 33 seconds of rests that's the result of years of spiritual growth and searching for true silence (which he related to meditation)

the somewhat famous story is that Cage was invited to test what was thought to be the most acoustically controlled and quietest room ever made, developed at a university. After a few seconds he hears a high-pitched noise and walks out, asking what it was. He was told it was blood moving past his ear. The point of the piece was to show there is no true silence, even if that's what is intended. Sounds like a concert hall's lighting and central air, audience breathing, etc will always be present


whereas if I wrote it, it would be more to say 'you artsy fucks'll listen to anything' - that motive becomes the substance of the piece. I'm not a huge 'art' guy but I find a lot of abstract art done during World Wars to be much more significant for that reason

jazz too - I've taken solos literally making fun of how formulaic and desperate to sound different soloists have gotten, only to be met with 'yo that was so out dude'


I can respect and appreciate just about anyone's taste as long as they're not too militant or dickish about it, so believe me, I'm always glad when you find something you like in any sort of pattern of (un)organized sound. that said, if you're calling all of music art, I can only strongly disagree
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