[PancakeBrah]

You would seriously take Ben over Cam? Cam has the potential to be a Top 5 QB.

Leaving Cam to the side, Ben's never been a Top 5 QB in terms of talent. We can argue about clutch and how that factors in, and he definitely is clutch in big moments. But he's so inconsistent. Anytime people talk about him as "elite" it's always in anecdotal ways. "No one could do what he does with that line" or "He plays well when it matters most", etc. I just think he lucked out into a great team and made a few clutch plays. I'd take a dozen QB's over him if I'm starting a team, without taking age into account.

Word @ the Browns D, though. I have them as my starting D in my 12 teamer. They'll be a scrappy team. Not a playoff contender, but they'll be respectable. Which is a big step for them.

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And yeah, I do hate on the Steelers. Living in Ohio for a large chunk of my life and seeing the number of Steelers fans who have no real reason to be Steeler fans other than they're the Yankees of the NFL irked me. Bandwagon to the fullest, but every single one of them has a "legit" reason for rooting for them. And then they'll talk shit about all the SuperBowls they won, most before they were even alive, like they're a superior fan because their teams superior in history. Annoying as fuck fanbase.