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dead man 09-20-2014 05:59 PM

trolling and sadism
 
http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/...hs-and-sadists

actual study below:

http://scottbarrykaufman.com/wp-cont...o-have-fun.pdf



valid or no?



i say no. but its an interesting read anyway imo

big baby 09-20-2014 06:02 PM

FUCK

Ghost1 09-20-2014 06:09 PM

I am a narcissist with machiavellian traits.


Sadist/phsycho seems exagerated tho lol

dead man 09-20-2014 07:41 PM

its a correlational study based on the online self-reports of admitted trolls. seems a bit shifty data-wise.

full-time trolls are strange fuckers for sure but psychopathic tendencies? idk

Ghost1 09-20-2014 07:49 PM

I mean.....

Who doesn5 have phsychopathic TENDENCIES tho.......

I agree w u brudda

Sum butthurt ghost of nc past prolly wrote this article an conducted the study with clenched teeth in tear soaked t shirts.

oats 09-20-2014 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dead man (Post 405780)
its a correlational study based on the online self-reports of admitted trolls. seems a bit shifty data-wise.

full-time trolls are strange fuckers for sure but psychopathic tendencies? idk

Therein lies my problem. Maybe they were trolling the study? If anything I think it's cool that people are looking into this, perhaps others will craft better experiments.

theMuzzl3 09-20-2014 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by big baby (Post 405734)
FUCK

LOL <3 u

Ghost1 09-20-2014 08:37 PM

Lol woth the bold i now understand blacks point

Oats such a good teacher


My comments remain in regards to the theory of the study as a whole despite the test methods tho.

dull boy 09-20-2014 09:42 PM

Lol

dead man 09-20-2014 11:55 PM

Dullboy is far so beyond discussing things. This topic clearly only warrants an ever-condescending "Lol"

Cool man awesome

oats 09-21-2014 12:15 AM

all I can think of when I see survey-based studies, is when we were given surveys in 12th grade about our substance habits. As it turned out, the majority of our senior class was heavily dependent on hardcore drugs daily.

it is an interesting read, and I'm not even saying the conclusion is incorrect, but I'd like to see a more researched effort: experiments targeted towards people who have existing troll reputations as opposed to identifying themselves as trolls, contrived situations on forums etc. More interesting to me, albeit less feasible, is if there are any neurological patterns shared by trolls such as physiological differences upon engaged trolling behavior (everyone gets a kick out of fucking with people a little bit, but do the ways/magnitudes of enjoyment differ amongst trolls insofar as brain activity?).

Objective 09-21-2014 03:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Bags (Post 405735)
Sadist/phsycho seems exagerated tho lol

Depends what kind of trolls you're dealing with. I wouldn't say it's exaggerated.

dull boy 09-21-2014 07:12 AM

Sorry, @dead man.

I don't know. The way mental states are defined just doesn't sit well with me, and this study, like most studies, is far from conclusive. It's a topic starter for a discussion on what? I trolled when I was 16 because I enjoyed getting a rise out of people. The internet was a playground back then, where you could slip into different roles and people took you at face value. People who troll aren't sadists, necessarily, because they don't consider people on the internet. That could be somewhat of a sociopathic trait, but I think it's more emotional ignorance than a lack of any empathy. Empathy has always been something I could turn on or off. Choose to feel or not. I assume everyone has that ability. I think now, a lot of trolls see what they're doing as mostly harmless. I guess the real discussion is how the internet creates a disconnect in responsibility.

Ghost1 09-21-2014 07:46 AM

^^^nailed it.

big baby 09-21-2014 11:08 AM

I cant choose to feel empathy. I just sometimes don't feel it.

big baby 09-21-2014 11:09 AM

OH WAIT IM SUPPOSED OT BE TYPING IN ALL CAPS IM JUDGE BB

dull boy 09-21-2014 12:15 PM

Empathy is just understanding someone else's emotional perspective. I don't it means you have to necessarily share their pain, as much as understand it. A sociopath by it's definition is someone with antisocial tendencies. Maybe some people are chemically unable to feel empathy, but I tend to think of most things as learned behavior, even if it's not direct, but more adaptive. That's all from my own experience, though, and that's obviously highly subjective. To say people who troll are sadists, though, is just incredibly narrow minded, even if it was a survey.

When I said I can choose to feel empathy, I mean that I can choose to lend myself to their plight. I can generally understand where a person is coming from.

big baby 09-21-2014 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by dull boy (Post 406027)
Empathy is just understanding someone else's emotional perspective. I don't it means you have to necessarily share their pain, as much as understand it. A sociopath by it's definition is someone with antisocial tendencies. Maybe some people are chemically unable to feel empathy, but I tend to think of most things as learned behavior, even if it's not direct, but more adaptive. That's all from my own experience, though, and that's obviously highly subjective. To say people who troll are sadists, though, is just incredibly narrow minded, even if it was a survey.

When I said I can choose to feel empathy, I mean that I can choose to lend myself to their plight. I can generally understand where a person is coming from.

the article didnt say that. just says they share typically similar identities when it comes to surveying emotions that are on brink during these 'episodes' idiyote e

dull boy 09-21-2014 12:47 PM

Oh. Didn't read.

Blanco Bishop 09-21-2014 11:33 PM

Trolling takes a lot of energy.


Nigguzh have to be emotionally unstable in some way in order do it all the time imo.


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